Fighting Dubstep Pirates

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:30 am

if ur gonna release a cd, please arrange it with somebody to leak a completely fake copy before hand
and load places like Limewire/bareshare/oink with a buch of bullshit files.
just drives me mad when people cd's get leaked and no precautions are made.

my nag is over

south3rn · Post by **south3rn** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:38 am

in regards to the box of dub...

test presses and promos of vinyl are sold, why is it so taboo when a cd promo gets sold? how is everyone so sure it's not soul jazz selling the cd?

i might just be completely clueless, if so, someone fill me in.

prisoner · Post by **prisoner** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:46 am

feasible_weasel wrote:if ur gonna release a cd, please arrange it with somebody to leak a completely fake copy before hand
and load places like Limewire/bareshare/oink with a buch of bullshit files.
just drives me mad when people cd's get leaked and no precautions are made.
my nag is over

how is that going to help/change anything?

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:35 am

please don't mention what releases are available where. any specifics will be edited out.

spender · Post by **spender** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:27 am

Southern, with regards to Box of Dub, it's not Soul Jazz selling it. And anyone involved with it's right to be hacked off with the wasteman selling a priviledged copy on e-bay.

These promos are given (not sold) to a small group of radio DJs and journalists.

And yes, they sell the vinyl promos and test presses, but in or from their shop or through their own distributors. Totally different.

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:32 am

reported the ebay listing as fraudulent - see what happens..........

badger · Post by **badger** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:02 am

think we need to get jack sparrow on the case

7" · Post by 7" » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:03 am

badger wrote:think we need to get jack sparrow on the case

Brilliant idea

badger · Post by **badger** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:03 am

or is he what we're fighting against?

but seriously music piracy isnt good but it doesnt really look like what this is? surely isnt a crime to sell promos that you've been sent on ebay, just very rude

7" · Post by 7" » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:05 am

it is nonsense innit, selling something so precious, i wish i could receive a exclusive promo and keep it for me... secretly.

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:12 am

feasible_weasel wrote:if ur gonna release a cd, please arrange it with somebody to leak a completely fake copy before hand
and load places like Limewire/bareshare/oink with a buch of bullshit files.

some guy i know at The Beats does this. i think quite a few indie labels do it.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:56 am

tronman wrote:
feasible_weasel wrote:if ur gonna release a cd, please arrange it with somebody to leak a completely fake copy before hand
and load places like Limewire/bareshare/oink with a buch of bullshit files.
some guy i know at The Beats does this. i think quite a few indie labels do it.

universal music group does this for sure.

wil blaze · Post by **wil blaze** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:11 am

Yeah i heard it can work if you get enough people to host in on the p2p sites...

i only know like 2 people that even use them tho

any ideas for methods of flooding the networks with fake files anyone?

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:16 am

Wil Blaze wrote:Yeah i heard it can work if you get enough people to host in on the p2p sites...

i only know like 2 people that even use them tho

any ideas for methods of flooding the networks with fake files anyone?

i know of at least 2 products in development which could spell the end of downloading music via p2p as we know it.

classagraphics · Post by **classagraphics** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:19 am

whats the more upsetting part: not getting deserved money for your efforts (producers, label, distro etc) or the lack of ethics? i think there will always be people without ethics in any scene (music, religion, political, or otherwise) and this cannot be escaped, only try to fight back against every individual that pops up. and not getting deserved money, i guess you gotta start thinking of new ways to make money back (think US punk bands & current US rap artists).

my 2 cents would be that at some level you gotta accept piracy and maybe cats should be selling merchendise at shows to make the money to invest in the next pressing (and i'm not just talking plain text on the front tshirts). I remember going to punk shows back in the day and them have a large merchandise area with tshirts from all sorts of bands, records/tapes/cds for sale, stickers to give away, posters, fanzines, etc. I realize the scene isnt so big, but why don't people sell records or cds at shows even, or get some cheap mixes just as promotion. Maybe people are in places outside of holland and this already happening, if so enlighten me. I know there's a dubstep party in Pittsburgh with AbZ, and sapphic_beats is bringing vinyl to sell, which is great for a town like Pgh where people probably can't pick up every release at the local record shop. what to other people think about merchandise being sold at shows?

dutty yuppie · Post by **dutty yuppie** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:33 am

Whilst I totally agree with your sentiments on this thread, particularly with CD releases, I must confess to having bought plenty of promo vinyls in the various record exchanges in Notting Hill and Soho....They stock tons of them. I doubt I'm the only one here.

Seckle - I hope that doesn't cause a problem in light of your post above.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:35 am

Dutty Yuppie wrote:Whilst I totally agree with your sentiments on this thread, particularly with CD releases, I must confess to having bought plenty of promo vinyls in the various record exchanges in Notting Hill and Soho....They stock tons of them. I doubt I'm the only one here.

Seckle - I hope that doesn't cause a problem in light of your post above.

i was referring to our P2P policy about revealing site and release details. info about legitimate copies at stores is always allowed.

cheers.

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:40 am

Dutty Yuppie wrote:Whilst I totally agree with your sentiments on this thread, particularly with CD releases, I must confess to having bought plenty of promo vinyls in the various record exchanges in Notting Hill and Soho....They stock tons of them. I doubt I'm the only one here.

u know!!

but sssssshhhhhhhhh!
the bargain bins are heat aswell. nuff old garage that DJs from around west london have sold off.

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:43 am

tronman wrote:
Dutty Yuppie wrote:Whilst I totally agree with your sentiments on this thread, particularly with CD releases, I must confess to having bought plenty of promo vinyls in the various record exchanges in Notting Hill and Soho....They stock tons of them. I doubt I'm the only one here.

u know!!

but sssssshhhhhhhhh!
the bargain bins are heat aswell. nuff old garage that DJs from around west london have sold off.

last time i checked it was proper dwindling though i was gutted

wil blaze · Post by **wil blaze** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:45 am

ThinKing wrote:
Wil Blaze wrote:Yeah i heard it can work if you get enough people to host in on the p2p sites...

i only know like 2 people that even use them tho

any ideas for methods of flooding the networks with fake files anyone?
i know of at least 2 products in development which could spell the end of downloading music via p2p as we know it.

go on...

or is it all "hush hush"???

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