never been here before - dry spell

[Gurnumsbug]

For me it has to be a certain vibe.. it's been raining over here a lot recently..so that;s been helping

[didi]

Working with Live has improved my arrangements - primarily due to the pattern mentality i would get myself into in renoise.

that's how i feel about fl and the step sequencer

it allows me to get so lazy i can't stand it

it's a great tool just not for me

[nowaysj]

There is something to that pattern way of working/thinking. It is like, a way. There are many ways. That pattern/block kind of mentality is really freeing in many regards, and in that freedom, the creativity happens. But again, it is just one way of working.

In fl, now, I on occasion do drums in the step sequencer, or start my drums there.

But I'm really all about audio in the playlist now. Have had a bloom there.

[rickyarbino]

Why would you use a workstation that effectively keeps you from making music?

I see what you mean in a lack of vision, I think it's a personal vision. What music do you want to make, and how are you able to make it. It seems like Renoise was your best tool, and dropping it for some other daw (presumably for the big names that use it) is a pretty bum move man.
I remember when I started working with DAWs other than FL, and I expected them to make my music better, but they won't. Only the decisions you make from the mouse and keyboard end of your computer can make a difference.


If Burial, believe me no pressure, made it to national headlines with SoundForge, I recon you can do it with Renoise.

Good luck.





Imagine if [insert band/artist name] switched to [insert irrelevant instrument name] half way through their ascent.

Would like to burn my final remark in honor of the one and only, Daniel Johnston.

[Karoshi]

wake up, have a spliff and wait for magic to happen

Reminds me of the song lyrics

You say you write your best rhymes when you high? I say I write my best rhymes 'cos im fly

No point to this, I just like that line because a lot of people seem dependent on having a smoke before

Anyway, I struggle to finish a song a month, even every 2. Always have, always will. I just jump between things too quick, a very short attention span

[didi]

Anyway, I struggle to finish a song a month, even every 2. Always have, always will. I just jump between things too quick, a very short attention span

nah fuck that

defeatist attitude

work hard and improve

[wub]

Anyway, I struggle to finish a song a month, even every 2. Always have, always will. I just jump between things too quick, a very short attention span

nah fuck that

defeatist attitude

work hard and improve

Agree on this - FORCE YOURSELF TO FINISH TRACKS

Not one for forcing creativity, however if you have a good 16 bar loop but can't develop it, just take what you have and turn into a tune. For example;

• 16 bar loop
• copy four times
• Stagger the elements in at the start of the first 16 bars
• Stagger the elements out (not in the same order as they came in) for the last 16 bars
• Remove half the elements between the second and third 16 bars
• Add a white noise riser (semi srs )
• Finished tune

Not the longest or most comprehensive tune ever made, but it is essentially a finished tune even if it's a little on the short side. And guarantee you'll have had ideas about how to develop it further whilst doing the above.

[nowaysj]

And guarantee you'll have had ideas about how to develop it further whilst doing the above.

Yes, major agree. Just get the whole thing laid out and then it will be obvious what needs to be done, and with the grace of god, you'll be able to do what needs to be done.

[Karoshi]

Anyway, I struggle to finish a song a month, even every 2. Always have, always will. I just jump between things too quick, a very short attention span

nah fuck that

defeatist attitude

work hard and improve

Agree on this - FORCE YOURSELF TO FINISH TRACKS

Not one for forcing creativity, however if you have a good 16 bar loop but can't develop it, just take what you have and turn into a tune. For example;

• 16 bar loop
• copy four times
• Stagger the elements in at the start of the first 16 bars
• Stagger the elements out (not in the same order as they came in) for the last 16 bars
• Remove half the elements between the second and third 16 bars
• Add a white noise riser (semi srs )
• Finished tune

Not the longest or most comprehensive tune ever made, but it is essentially a finished tune even if it's a little on the short side. And guarantee you'll have had ideas about how to develop it further whilst doing the above.

I do actively work on this, trying to finish songs, but then i get another idea in my head and want to start that before i forget it haha.

also, I dont "finish songs" and put them up on soundcloud etc, but i do have loaaaads of 2-3 minute tracks that I would consider songs that are sort of finished. no point dragging them out for 5 mins when they already say everything i want to say in the 2-3 mins they play for

[wub]

but then i get another idea in my head and want to start that before i forget it haha.

Get a notebook.

[nowaysj]

Well, a lot of musical ideas are too intricate for note booking.

And I'm down with 2-3 minute songs. Like keep it moving already. Major indulgences happening out there.

[Karoshi]

Well, a lot of musical ideas are too intricate for note booking.

And I'm down with 2-3 minute songs. Like keep it moving already. Major indulgences happening out there.

Yes!

so many songs i hear and think, "this was over 3 minutes ago, why is this still playing". If i wanted to hear the exact same thing again, id listen to the track again!

Its almost as if there is a law that says tracks have to be 5mins long that everyone is sticking to.

[wub]

Well, a lot of musical ideas are too intricate for note booking.

And I'm down with 2-3 minute songs. Like keep it moving already. Major indulgences happening out there.

Yes!

so many songs i hear and think, "this was over 3 minutes ago, why is this still playing". If i wanted to hear the exact same thing again, id listen to the track again!

Its almost as if there is a law that says tracks have to be 5mins long that everyone is sticking to.

There is a lot of that in Dubs board, one of my most frequent bits of feedback is that a tune is twice as long as it needs to be. A lot of people just duplicating the first half of the tune after the drop for the sake of getting it to 5mins when it doesn't need to be.