The Warp Curse - When good artists go backwards

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:00 pm

It's trying to do the Sun Ra vibe but just lacking the intensity. it' just spends too much time being spacey without the weird composition and playing technique to go with it

sixs · Post by **sixs** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:51 pm

sixs · Post by **sixs** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:51 pm

there's no sun ra in flylo

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:52 pm

sixs wrote:there's no sun ra in flylo

No he just wants there to be

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:57 pm

Say flylo's name again.

rickyarbino · Post by **rickyarbino** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:58 pm

Post some sun ra, so I can better get what you mean?

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:59 pm

I do like some Flylo and the last set I saw from him was good but the attempts at being all spacey and shit often don't work too well.

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:00 pm

jesslem wrote:Post some sun ra, so I can better get what you mean?

Most obvious choice but a good example for that reason

sixs · Post by **sixs** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:01 pm

sun ra^

flylo
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wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:04 pm

I think Flylo is more specifically into this vibe though

rickyarbino · Post by **rickyarbino** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:14 pm

Only binding factor is Jazz imo.

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:21 pm

Look into Sun Ra in general though and it'll make a little more sense regarding what Sun Ra talks about both outside of and in his music.

rickyarbino · Post by **rickyarbino** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:25 pm

That's just speculation though isn't it?

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:25 pm

also he is good so maybe it's fair to have certain expectations

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:28 pm

jesslem wrote:That's just speculation though isn't it?

no thats fair sun ra is rather mystical and it's highly conceptual music so it's more established territorry to 'steal' from compared with other stuff. another example could be funcadelic or bootsie

but it's not a problem for listeners when his stuff sounds like madlib and that is a bit hypocritical

rickyarbino · Post by **rickyarbino** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:30 pm

Don't listen to madlib, and wouldn't say I'm a particularly avid flylo listener either tbf.

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:30 pm

jesslem wrote:That's just speculation though isn't it?

Yeah I'm not saying he's trying to be like Sun Ra but there's definitely a leaning towards that Sun Ra style vibe and the other Afrofuturist jazz guys of the past in terms of his obvious influences. I like Flylo but his space jazz hints don't always work. I wasn't a huge fan of a lot of Cosmogramma for example

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:32 pm

Did an Edit^

Oh yeah, you should jesslem, captain murphy was a great record and madlib is just so broad, its like he is a living jukebox

rickyarbino · Post by **rickyarbino** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:02 pm

I've looked him up before, but I know he's got a lot of stuff and I didn't feel crazy about much of it.
Do you have any recommendations?

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:09 pm

part of it is how vast his catalogue is and how you see different stuff from his perspective...

but the madvillain album is one of my favourite albums + the quasimodo eps maybe?

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