SYSTEM ERROR - DISTORTION DUB remix

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:59 pm

really unhappy with the first one, the more i listened i realised the structure was fucked up too much as it was all a bit too weird. heres a new mixown and rearrange with some added bits to make it more interesting and added a wee bit more darkness. any comments would be much appreciated - thanks, ben.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/tunes/syste ... on_dub.mp3

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:52 pm

Yeah, I liked that one - it evolves well, enough to keep it interesting. There are certain synth noises that didn't sit right to my taste 9 (about 3.20 and 3.37), but it is my taste after all. I think maybe if that part was done on a reverbed up hammond vst it would've sounded better - it appears to be that sort of vibe you were going for and would give it a bit more of a traditional dub flava.

I think the samples a bit too obvious and the tune didn't really need it, as there's enough changes going on anyway.

The filters and bit crushed bits sounded really good and I liked the breakbeat at the end (enough that I would have liked to hear it throughout the tune to give it a bit more energy).

Never quite sure why dubstep's evolved into this half-step thing as loads of the early stuff seemed to be around 130-140 BPM whereas things do get a bit ploddy at 70BPM, but yeah I liked this.

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:59 pm

thanks for the listen and detailed breakdown. i understand everything your saying mate and am going to give it some more tweaking and stuff and hopefully it will be more listenable and have a bit more fluidity. thanks again.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:34 pm

No worries, glad to be of service. As I said it's 95% there, so pretty good effort. Wish I'd found these forums ages ago as it does get you up to speed if the feedback comes in. It'd be good to hear it as it develops

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:39 pm

big ups shonky, inspirational words mate.

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:23 pm

you can here the oldskool jungle version HERE

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:25 pm

server maybe a bit slow, your patience is appreciated.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:30 pm

Server very slow, 50 minute download. Still, not like I was up to much anyway luckily

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:01 pm

ha-ha cheers man

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:38 pm

I personally like the sample, and will add to this space right here, when I listen a few more times.

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:40 pm

thanks for you time

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:09 pm

Was going to download the old skool jungle version, but had a powercut - it seemed to be going at about a bit a minute, so give us a shout if you put it up somewhere without a steam-powered server. Would like to hear it but that's way too long

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:29 pm

yeah my mates downloading shit so its slow, i could email you a 192

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:36 pm

Sorry - what's a 192?

Be good to hear it, so if you can send it on.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:16 pm

D/l a lot speedier later - I like the jungle mix, liked the fuzzy bass. I think jungle was the first dance music I got into (the pre-drum and bass stuff) and I think this was a pretty good toon. Liked the fuzz bass especially. Nice to see you didn't just go for loads of amens (although to be honest that still works for me!)

I think one of the things I've been looking into lately is trying to incorporate some of those old jungle riffs into the slower tempos, but the beats seem a little too slow at 140 - Darqwan and Dubchild seem to do it Ok, but I'll have to keep looking into it how to acheive it. Seems to be that you might have to double-speed parts of the break so that it still has that energy. Dubstep beats don't usually work at jungle speeds because the syncopation only works at a particular tempo. Try listening to Bigga Times by Darqwan - he seems to get it down pretty well. It seems that if you've got the talent for those beats, you should incorporate that more into your work.

Like I was saying earlier too much of the stuff being passed off as dubstep just seems way too ponderous and ploddy to me, the early tempa and ghost stuff, where it was more influenced by 2-step and garage seemed to be a lot more dancefloor friendly and now it just seems to be losing the dub part (and indeed the step). Seems to make more sense to me to take dancehall riddims from 90bpm to 130 than down to 70bpm (e.g.Buck and Bury by El-B, Special Request by Phoebe 1). Just my taste though, others may disagree.

Reminds me of loads of hip-hop clubs that just end up playing to moody blokes and no-one dancin. Not my idea of a good night out.

deadlycrusher · Post by **deadlycrusher** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:47 pm

yeah i think some of the slowed down traditional jungle breakz will work well in dubstep if you chop em and stick em right, im trying a track now with mashed up jazz beatz on to see it they fit with some dirty dub bass. im going to check out some of the people you mentioned too. cheers

SYSTEM ERROR - DISTORTION DUB remix

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