Who is your favorite grime / dubstep reporter ?

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:23 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote:here's K-Punk on the Rephlex comps:
http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/002632.html
and from an early post on K-Punk regarding 'southside garage'

"instead of not wanting it to stop, you're forever waiting for it to start"

But K-Punk is a clueless fuck, as demonstrated ad infinitum on Dissensus/his incredibly pretentious blog/etc/etc...

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:27 pm

Spaceboy wrote:where can one read simon reynolds pontificatory thoughts

it's the music blog sid

www.blissout.blogspot.com

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:29 pm

wicked - knowledge is power! cheeears

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:36 pm

Paulie wrote: But K-Punk is a clueless fuck, as demonstrated ad infinitum on Dissensus/his incredibly pretentious blog/etc/etc...

where as there is a certain amount / type of pretension in k-punk's blog, i don't think it is fair to call him a 'clueless fuck', which he is quite clearly not.

the best thing about blogging as an emerging media is the range of approaches and opinions it presents the reader with. from the hyper-intellectualised k-punk to the punchy, humorous prancehall and everything in between; you don't have to read what you don't like but i for one enjoy the plethora of perspectives.

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:43 pm

prancehall is a fuckin DON.

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:51 pm

boomnoise wrote:
Paulie wrote: But K-Punk is a clueless fuck, as demonstrated ad infinitum on Dissensus/his incredibly pretentious blog/etc/etc...
where as there is a certain amount / type of pretension in k-punk's blog, i don't think it is fair to call him a 'clueless fuck', which he is quite clearly not.

the best thing about blogging as an emerging media is the range of approaches and opinions it presents the reader with. from the hyper-intellectualised k-punk to the punchy, humorous prancehall and everything in between; you don't have to read what you don't like but i for one enjoy the plethora of perspectives.

Prancehall's blog is witty and clever. K-Punk's is neither.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:57 pm

its a shame you call him pretentious just becuase he likes to use imagery-heavy language and reference everybody's favourite post-structuralists in every post. It positions him outside the scene, yes, but like Boomnoise says above its all about different aproaches.

And like i've said, I can see both Simon's and Mark's arguments about WHY they don't like the sound, they're both perfectly lucid about this, so I think their opinions are quite interesting

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:00 pm

fair enough paulie - i respect yr opinion. i think it is overly convoluted and he stretches arguments to fit his perspective but still enjoyable.

no one has really weighed in for fiddy, or silverdollar, both of who i really rate.

m9918868 · Post by **m9918868** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:18 pm

boomnoise wrote:
Paulie wrote: But K-Punk is a clueless fuck, as demonstrated ad infinitum on Dissensus/his incredibly pretentious blog/etc/etc...
where as there is a certain amount / type of pretension in k-punk's blog, i don't think it is fair to call him a 'clueless fuck', which he is quite clearly not.

the best thing about blogging as an emerging media is the range of approaches and opinions it presents the reader with. from the hyper-intellectualised k-punk to the punchy, humorous prancehall and everything in between; you don't have to read what you don't like but i for one enjoy the plethora of perspectives.

This k-punk sounds to me like a wanna-be academic... i got nothing against that, except when it slides to the levels of fashionable name- dropping (zizeck, haraway, the ubiquous french school, ...) an sich and the formulating of nicely constructed, still hollow phrases or inflatory concepts ("his crash ontology was the sonic fictional equivalent of the amen breakbeat in jungle, a kind of consistency-generating semiotic machine," could be one example). Typical for the cultural studies domain, which i bet he studied, and especially when it comes to deal with cyberspace. More an uninspired rechewing of the thoughts of greater minds -preferably by deconstructing them Ã la mode franÃ§aise- and failing to bring them to a plausible thesis in other realms.

But then blogs might be not so adapt for doing the contrary. Neither are internet fora, by the way.

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:20 pm

boomnoise wrote:fair enough paulie - i respect yr opinion. i think it is overly convoluted and he stretches arguments to fit his perspective but still enjoyable.

no one has really weighed in for fiddy, or silverdollar, both of who i really rate.

if you weighed on fiddy you'd get your ass beat - by her

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:22 pm

well, k-punk is an academic if that excuses him and i'm pretty sure he hasn't got much regard for en vogue theorists.

and i ain't weighing in on chantelle, id most definetly fight her corner!

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:34 pm

gotta big up dubway aswell. repping dub step 2 the max.

top stuff.

m9918868 · Post by **m9918868** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:39 pm

boomnoise wrote:well, k-punk is an academic if that excuses him

well, kinda... he should know better though. Honestly, I am more than fed up with this kind of vapour theorists. Their eclectic style could be a praisingworty, but their lack of turning it into consistent and solid theories just frustrates me.

m9918868 · Post by **m9918868** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:40 pm

Still nice you can bang on about such topic on a dubstep forum...

and yes, big up to dubway for making it possible.

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:42 pm

i'm pretty sure K Punk isn't an academic, not by profession anyway.

and if he can't write from that perspective on the web, where can he write? surely this is exactly the medium for his blend of culture and theory? no one makes people read his work...

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:43 pm

oh and fiddy is a certified DON

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:50 pm

Well, he's a college lecturer. An academic of sorts. More academic than most jobs at least.

m9918868 · Post by **m9918868** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:57 pm

Blackdown wrote:and if he can't write from that perspective on the web, where can he write? surely this is exactly the medium for his blend of culture and theory? no one makes people read his work...

I was just hinting at my personal impression that reading from a screen rather don't than does guarantee a really profound reading. Unfortunately enough. But maybe you can?

When you start logging your own progression in this or another theory, you may expect that you'd better write it short because the attention spans from the reader will be equally short.

If you want to deepen your point, I think you'd better opt for other (printable) media. If possible, of course, as you pointed out.

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:59 pm

if you don't have the attention span to read k punk, don't read him.
i don't always agree with him but i defend his right to use this medium.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:10 pm

this has all gone a bit dissensus.

my blog's shit and lacking anything solid, but i'm working on it.

respect to riddim.ca reppin' for north america.

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