TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

[Jizz]

fuck i swear im losing it mane, did not realise a whole week went by and i didnt even remember this thread

given my feedback though, and messaging noways for an entry for next week

[nowaysj]

for this week!

[Jizz]

oh wow of course

[nowaysj]

I have great love of the TUNA!ites.

BudSpencertron:
Soundcloud
Soundcloud
Soundcloud



DefaultUniverse:
Soundcloud



Nowaaaysj:
Soundcloud



TheProdigalJizz:
Soundcloud

I beat you this week Jizz, I was actually done before someone! Really is amazing!

Can't wait to listen to these tracks. And I'd like to go back to last weeks tracks again, I think I only laptop and headphone listened to those. Shit.... Okay maybe tomorrow.

Very likely I'm going to be gone next week, but I will post up a track for TUNA!, I'm going on this trip explicitly to make music. But I probably won't be responding during the week, and I may not be able to feedback tomorrow, as I've a lot to prepare. But I will get to it, friends!

[faultier]

re: nowaysj: hehe qui pro quo or is it? great minds think alike yadda yadda really feeling your output this week and was actually wondering how you made "conversations with the beast" and whether stems could possibly be available? also even though it seems it's not up for tunaing, digging that "48 hours to die", sort of reminds me of raoul sinier (check him out if you don't know him, i reckon it's probably up your alley at least the first couple of his albums), will feedback more thoroughly in the thread

the sample comes from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz_VKKXygt0

sampled from vinyl, slowed down to a sluggish 90 bpm, a couple of lazy chops, kick snare hihat and voila
no pads involved,the sloppiness comes from the fact i sticked my drum hits under the slightly-uneven-because-real-drummer beat of the sample

will be happy to send stems your way, should i send you just the stems as i used thel or do you like to have the original sample to have more options?

also 1000th post

[faultier]

@Bud: neurotin> great work on the garagey shuffle! i feel there could be a bit more going on during the intro, maybe a subtle hint at the melody to come... the synth coming in the back around 1:20 should be a bit louder in the mix imo. at first i wasn't sure about the vocals but they grew on me. really good stuff, i assume this is another "blanc" tune?

nini> liking the 80's vibes, but not too fond of the vocals, i feel the track could work on it's own. i feel the vocals could be a bit less on the front, maybe chop'em a bit, something like a la jamie xx possibly?

broken remix> again, nice shuffley touch on the beats, though maybe you could add another layer of percussions at times. actually not sure if it's the direction you wanted for the track, but overall it seems a bit empty, like i feel there could be at least another melodic element to complement the rest. then again, it works as it is, kinda sparse, maybe you still could add a couple of subtle incidentals here and there.

@Jizzman: excellent sound design! the hihats could be a bit less prominent in the mix i feel, it's especially noticeable at the beginning when the arrangement is more sparse.
i'm liking the glitchy guitar sound around 1:32, i think you should try to use it more. not sure you want to go all the way there, but when the snare goes double time, i was expecting it to turn into a full on footwork tune, triplet kicks and whatnot, could be an interesting twist

@nowaysj: Conversations> really liking the atmosphere in this one, sick sound design, can't really find anything to critique

48 hours to die> feeling this one too, though i feel a more metallic sounding hi hat sound would work wonders. and it would fill the higher frequency part of the spectrum, maybe it's just me but as it is, it almost sounds sort of lowpassed, like muffled.

[nowaysj]

Nice thousandth post.

Okay, lemme see here...

So I said to dfault:

So... like, how'd you make this track. Do you have bits of audio? Could you possibly stem this out for me? I'd like to bounce around in this. This is really dope, casual, vibey. I kinda like these sorta throw away sketches you've been doing. You call it shoegaze, is this shoegaze? Cause I've been using that word wrong (in my head) for a while.

To which he replied in pieces:

really feeling your output this week and was actually wondering how you made "conversations with the beast" and whether stems could possibly be available?

Thanks, and sure thing. I made this song from One in a Million by Larry Graham sampled off of vinyl:



I've only got a stereo two track, as it was all done in the 404, and I just recorded a single performance out into fl.

What I could send you is like the 10 samples I pulled from that song. Actually pulled maybe 4, and resampled up to around 10 total sounds. A couple of phrases, an A phrase that is 1 bar, a B phrase that is 2 bars, and some little do dads on top of that. So I'll send you what I had on my pads, with and without fx, okay? So maybe I'll getchya like 16 or 18 samples.

The 404 has an fx called djfx looper, and I used that to seriously pitch these samples down, and then the looper is chopping and reversing the samples. It is kind of like granular sampling. Which is why I'd really like the Microgranny.



And on a minor side note, the 404 sx also has a lo-fi button that seems to be a bit crusher, so I resampled a couple of the samples with that, as well as kind of played the lo-fi button as part of the performance.

also even though it seems it's not up for tunaing, digging that "48 hours to die", sort of reminds me of raoul sinier (check him out if you don't know him, i reckon it's probably up your alley at least the first couple of his albums), will feedback more thoroughly in the thread

Yeah, I had that song on private. I've got so many songs up there now, I'm having to delete a lot of old stuff. Which sucks. SC has always been a great external archive for me, I've only started using it to share songs with y'all. But we've been making so many songs here in the TUNA! I'm getting crushed. So I saw that track was still on private, and listened to it, and I kinda liked it too. I will check out Raoul Sinier, thanks for the tip! And do any of y'all pay for soundcloud. That is a little too rich for me... $55 a year... I'd go for half that. Almost everything I consider buying now... I'd buy for half the price. My mind has not adjusted to the fall of the dollar (or I guess my slide into poverty).

Oh, and you've got to give me like a week to get those samples together. My Sunday looks fucked, and I'll will be wrestling squirrels for turf by Monday.

will be happy to send stems your way, should i send you just the stems as i used thel or do you like to have the original sample to have more options?

Yes and yes, both and both. I'd like both. I'd like to have em as you used em, and the original, which I guess is the same as what I'm gonna bundle up for you!

I can't wait. I crashed soundcloud remixing your song This post is late because I had to kill ffx sc crashed so hard, while I was in the middle of writing this post.

Cheers.

[nowaysj]

48 hours to die> feeling this one too, though i feel a more metallic sounding hi hat sound would work wonders. and it would fill the higher frequency part of the spectrum, maybe it's just me but as it is, it almost sounds sort of lowpassed, like muffled.

Finally we are not on the same page!

Haha, I just absolutely LOVE the papery crush on that song. I probably did do something, some macro process that distorted and filtered the highs, I really really like it. Not so much cause I'm, like, into dark tunes, but the fuzz is just right at this frequency for my particular ASMR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous ... n_response

I know it is crazy, but I'm not always making music with commonly shared aesthetics, though it may appear I am, as I kinda work close to common forms. I might be coming close, but I'm probably more invested in some weird aspect of the song, or the texture, that probably only I am experiencing, or into.

[faultier]

haha, for the shoegaze thing, i just typed whatever in the tag as usual (am i the only one who doesn't like that you now have to tag everything you upload?) and it suggested "shoegaze", so there you go

would've never guessed "conversations" was made with samples

What I could send you is like the 10 samples I pulled from that song. Actually pulled maybe 4, and resampled up to around 10 total sounds. A couple of phrases, an A phrase that is 1 bar, a B phrase that is 2 bars, and some little do dads on top of that. So I'll send you what I had on my pads, with and without fx, okay? So maybe I'll getchya like 16 or 18 samples.

sounds good to me, i'll see what i can do with that

i'll send the stems and original samples your way asap

[nowaysj]

would've never guessed "conversations" was made with samples

I know, right, it sounds like 8 bit, right? But it is late 70's early 80's soul by the originator of slap funk. Haha, postmodernism, it's a bitch.

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

will give feedback soonish

thanks for the feedback again defaulty

agree on most you said but yeah the remix i wanna make spare as you said but ok maybe a touch more ambience or percs :3

on that matter i feel its tuff too call when its too much perc or too much ambience etc or too less
cause most music nowadays like future garage trap etc imo tends to fill everything always or make it so spare its boring

[_ronzlo_]

Big up the Larry Graham sample posse.

[nowaysj]

Dfault, what is your relationship to pads/ playing in beats? I feel like we've had this conversation, but humor the remnant of a man, you play pads?

[dddemain]

Given some much overdue feedback, big choons this week. Should be back on the tuna this weekend!

[nowaysj]

Good to hear dood!

[faultier]

long time no see Dan, good to have you back

Dfault, what is your relationship to pads/ playing in beats? I feel like we've had this conversation, but humor the remnant of a man, you play pads?

well my relationship with pads is pretty much inexistant, i do have a midi keyboard that has pads and faders and whatnot, but only use it rarely, like to jam a melody. should probably incorporate it more in my workflow, but am a man of habit and producing through mouse clicks worked for me so far...

ain't you supposed to be in the backwoods producing a masterpiece while re-asserting mankind's domination over rodents btw? these squirrels have decent wifi?

[nowaysj]

Yeah bro, I tied a cable to a racoon's tail then treed him. I've got a hundred mile transmit and receive radius now.



Naw... ***head hanging*** my trip was called off by external forces. Mother fucking external forces.

Re the pads... yeah, you got your thing banging, but I'm gonna recommend you take a dose of the sweet nectar of chopping and playing beats. You will definitely come up with different results. There might be a hump at the start, but I think there is a panacea there waiting for you. Don't need pads really, keys work pretty good too.

I'm just telling you, different things happen when it is non visual, body movement, different things happen.

Bah.

[faultier]

these pesky external forces eh... i hope you didn't cancel the trip altogether, sounds like an endeavour i'd like to hear the results of

about pads, i hear you man, was at a friend's and there was this other guy tht had brought one of these midi faux MPC, was amazed at how effortless it is to chop a sample and come up with mean beats in minutes. at least in ableton, as that's what he was using, not sure how that'd work in reaper. i was like "wow, i need to get on this". months later still haven't tried...

i think that's another reason i'm not progressing as much as i could. i feel i'm never in the mindset of sitting at my daw to learn some new synth or figure out how to set a midi controller. i just like to sit there to make music, even if tht means sticking to my weird ingrained bad habit of a workflow

[nowaysj]

That is a trap, imo. A big trap.

I understand you don't want to spend the time on music technology, and instead want to spend the time on music. I get that in a big way, but everybody's got a different idea of what that division means. Some people just cream their pants to doddle in max all day.

But, just get a template set up. That way you can just sample a bit of music, and go.

There is going to be a bit of setup time, no matter how you slice it (ha these puns just explode out of mind ). Some people do that ahead of time. Like will slice and map everything, set up kits, and then at a later time, come back, and actually play the shit. I'm not into it, I get invested in the chopping, like that is where the music is for me, that is central.

Ableton is quick for this dude. You can chop really easily in there.

Just use your keys, don't fetishize pads. And get to playing chops. Spend a little while on the template, it is not too onerous. And then you're set for the future.

[faultier]

hmm, you are convincing, maybe i'll try to find some way to do this in reaper today.

btw, does that mean i get to have the samples from conversations earlier than planned?