The SNH Football thread

[Forum]

When Wilshere came back from the season long injury he was quality, there were about 10 games in a row where he was Arsenal's best player. He got injured again though and since then I honestly havn't seen a good performance from him. I would drop him for Rosicky for now. Cazorla also really needs to be playing central or not at all, he offers nothing out wide

[hubb]

Imo Wilshere looked like he could become a much better player than Gerrard.

[scspkr99]

Hubb I think you think deeply about football I just don't think you understand it.

[hubb]

And I believe you think that is a form of communication because you used a couple of words in succesion. It's not though.

[Muncey]

So Mario looks about done. Wonder if he'll be available for Monday?

[scspkr99]

If his registration is done by 12.00 tomorrow apparently.

Hubb you said on the last page that Barkley at Everton was exactly like Wilshires situation despite neither of them playing for a manager that plays kick and rush or straightforward 442 and you are suggesting that Wilshire looked like he could have been much better than the second most capped player in England's history and one of the 5 best players in England's second most successful club. They are just words in succession.

Added to the shout that Cavani is the best forward in the world and yeah you just don't understand football.

[hubb]

Pull yourself together dude.
You're not helping anything and you can be certain nothing useful can come from communicating like you do.

I'm thinking you're either drunk or something horrible has gone down.

[scspkr99]

nah I'm just pointing out that you don't really understand football. You say stuff that you think sounds reasonable but it doesn't make any sense.

Just how is Barkley at Everton anything like Wilshire? he's had one proper season in the premier league under a manager that doesn't play 442 and got selected for the England World Cup squad. I don't need pulling together you just need to talk less rubbish.

[ehbes]

On the fence about balotelli

[scspkr99]

he's going to be fucking brilliant, if not he'll be entertaining, we need goals and he'll score

[hubb]

Rodgers tried to get Cavani but has to settle for Balotelli.

[ehbes]

It all depends on how he links with Sturridge and Sterling. If it clicks then I can't fucking wait

[scspkr99]

They won't all be starting all the time, certainly not when Lallana and Markovic are fit but he's a great option to have

How can you not love this

[hubb]

how would you prove to someone that apparently is too stupid to understand how stupid they are, that they are quantifiably 'this' stupid?

does that seem a bit stupid maybe?

I don't get it but I guess that's it

[scspkr99]

Practice in the mirror?

[hubb]

I don't get the point or why you'd want to come out looking like you do now?

Surely anyone can see you have something else up your bum by now.

I even wrote a calm respectful pm...

[scspkr99]

hubb you made a claim about football that suggests you don't get it. You then think I'm being harsh when tbh the kind of piss taking you'd get if you made these claims in the pub would be significantly harsher. You make claims that make no sense, whether about Barkley, Wilshire, Cavani, Gerrard. You then run off some random English players names and suggest that Wilshire could be much better than Gerrard when no midfielder in English football over the last 20 years has been much better than Gerrard.

Now I point this out to you and you message me to say that this is obviously not about football, well it is, you don't get it and your attempts to look like you know what you are talking about make you look as bad as you think I do.

I don't really care how I look like you may have noticed.

[ehbes]

I don't really care how I look like you may have noticed.

Then don't hate on those sail flag shorts I had posted

[hubb]

I'll point to the fact that both Wilshere and Barkley obviously doesn't have only one coach during their education.

The line going from the english national youth team is failingly concervative, english football as a whole is behind most of the other big football culture paradigmes.
Like you could see at the wc, where the english national team had to tell the press that they trained in all kind of different scenarios and temperatures etc to deal with playing in brazil. If you notice, not one of the other countries argues that way, but actually just expect them to do that.
They are objectively clutching at what matters in football and the appointment of your old coach doesn't point in another direction.
And the main reason imo - is that the number 10 playmaker that has been a part of almost every single great football team throughout history -has never been understood and brought about in this context. England has had young promising lads that could play that role in obviously different ways, given all the different types of players I suggested. But tradition will have it that the two way midfielders are prefered because fans and a lot of people involved (*) in england don't understand all of it and instead focus on putting in hardwork or tackling hard, despite it not yielding results in the context of this game we are talking about.
Which in turn usually destroy those unique talents that could have an impact with something other that is highly needed, than just running and hurting themselves.
It's a clear sign when you see that Wales has better prospects now just because they changed away from that way of playing and that sort of possession philosophy that brings about players like Bale, Ramsey or Allen that just don't look british on a pitch.

(*: Ironically apart from class acts like Rodgers that understand the importance of that role and brought in Coutinho, and took his education in another culture or context, who even considers Cavani to be an alternative to Suarez. Sterling even blew up when he was put in that central spot..etc)

But I don't understand it

[Muncey]

lul spurs

apparently theres a kid at the game with an arsenal shirt on