Ferguson riots

[bennyfroobs]

new york times is ridiculous.........................

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/25/us/bu ... lings.html

[nowaysj]

I'm sorry Benny, I'm not getting you.

[bennyfroobs]

the contrast of character descriptions between a serial killer and a kid who stole some cigars




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

and lol u know shits bad if dailymail are posting things like this

[nowaysj]

I thought the piece was overly apologetic for Brown, so didn't get your drift.

No one getting together to march against the hate crimes being committed against whites across the country as a result of the Brown shooting?

Anyone?

[bennyfroobs]

dont post such ridiculous bait please

[nowaysj]

Just as I thought, it doesn't matter does it?

[DrGatineau]

nwj i hate to say it, but.... i think this might have happened to you

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... epublican/

https://www.google.com/#q=the+reason+wh ... nservative


-you believe that there is a fundamental difference between the different "races"

-you care about rates of marriage

-you blame the problems on the black community on them buying expensive sneakers......

[nowaysj]

Time to fire up the quote engine.

nwj i hate to say it, but.... i think this might have happened to you

Thank you for your concern.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... epublican/

Nwj a republican. That is rich. I wouldn't worry about that.

https://www.google.com/#q=the+reason+wh ... nservative

Nwj conservative. This is also rich. From my perspective you (and your homies) are conservative. You accept information from quasi-governmental media outlets without critical thought. You believe that government is the absolute authority, knows what is best for individuals and society as a whole. You believe in a governmental monopoly of force, as well as other governmentally controlled monopolies. You appear to me as the conservative. I believe in greater personal freedom for individuals, businesses, and society as a whole. I am the liberal, you are the conservative.

-you believe that there is a fundamental difference between the different "races"

Yes, I believe in races (about as much as I believe in genres). I wouldn't say fundamental differences. But I do believe in differences, though. I didn't initially, but throughout my life it has become apparent to me and rather than unquestioningly accepting for fact something I've been told repeatedly throughout my life, I analyzed all of the available information and came to my conclusion. Personally, I think it is silly to acknowledge the morphological adaptations that humans exhibit, yet deny without base any other potential adaptions, adaptations to intelligence, emotion, sense of individuality, sense of community. Why would you deny those things? Why is it important that you deny those things?

Take a moment to wipe the drool off your chin, and now hear this: that doesn't mean that one group, or race, of people is more valuable than any other. That also doesn't mean that the human mind isn't extraordinarily plastic, it is. I know you think these ideas are born of racism and hatred, as you've been trained to believe that. But they are not. They are conclusions based upon a lifetime's honest personal observation.

-you care about rates of marriage

Fuck yes I do, dude. HUGELY. I know it will be so disappointing for you to hear this, and you can reject it out of hand, at your own peril, but the family is the basis of all civilization. The family is where we learn, at the deepest level, love, tolerance, sharing, caring, mutual respect, personal responsibility, and all of the other traits that build strong families, strong communities, strong nations, and a strong and healthy planet.

When the family structure is broken down, the fundamental ideals of civilization cannot be passed down through the generations, and you begin to develop generations like those we now see - totally depraved narcissistic pleasure seekers, open to any governmental/corporate thought programming and control, a people that laud Michael Brown as a national hero rather than a national disgrace, not because he was shot down, but because he lead a life, had parents that allowed, lived in a community that accepted, and consumed a popular culture that encouraged him to be shot down.

-you blame the problems on the black community on them buying expensive sneakers......

Well thanks to Michael Brown's sacrifice, they don't have to buy them.


But you got me dude, black suffering around the globe is based on Jordans. If we could just build a time machine and get Kobe on the Lakes back in the day, none of this would have happened! Cue fantasy music.

Do I believe that black people's behavior and social structure in America are contributing towards much of the very real suffering that those communities are going through? Fucks of yes, how could you not? OG suggested in the context of MB that young black men are fighting for survival in America, when we see in these latest two public incidences, these young men were fighting for drug paraphernalia to get high. I don't see those two things as the same.

I believe that if black families stayed together, taught their children, through example, the fundamentals of family life, and societal strength, if black parents didn't commit limited resources to drugs, cigarets, material possessions, and instead invested those resources into providing a stable, safe environment for their kids, perhaps schooling that is not provided by the government, you would have generations of very strong black people, with very intelligent and compassionate children, all of whom would be economically viable and would be impervious to the culture of death.

[Harkat]

[nowaysj]

Now let me take some pot shots at you, jags:

[Harkat]

Now let me take some pot shots at you, jags:

now I'm here on the sidelines as a rule, but come on nwj, this is too retarded

""big government"" is not the same as wanting coppers that look like dudes from counter strike

[nowaysj]

Just a bit of sport, but the two are not unrelated.

[Harkat]

nowasj, do you open carry?

[OGLemon]

Time to fire up the quote engine.

https://www.google.com/#q=the+reason+wh ... nservative

Nwj conservative. This is also rich. From my perspective you (and your homies) are conservative. You accept information from quasi-governmental media outlets without critical thought. You believe that government is the absolute authority, knows what is best for individuals and society as a whole. You believe in a governmental monopoly of force, as well as other governmentally controlled monopolies. You appear to me as the conservative. I believe in greater personal freedom for individuals, businesses, and society as a whole. I am the liberal, you are the conservative.

This just reminded me of something. Isn't it crazy how conservatives try to turn the word liberal into a epithet, yet liberal is derived from liberty, a word synonymous with freedom.

[nowaysj]

nowasj, do you open carry?

It is (recently) illegal where I live. A court case in February made it legal to conceal carry, and when the local Sheriff's department stops dragging its feet and actually conforms its actions to the law and the constitution, I'll be carrying concealed.

[OGLemon]

You should read up on some Anarchist literature, noways. Even some of the stuff written hundreds of years ago is relevant in today's society.

[nowaysj]

I've never read it. In speaking with anarchists through the years, though, I've been disappointed. I kind of feel like this world was anarchistic, and out of that these centralizing systems of control...naturally...emerge.

I don't know what force is supposed to oppose that centralizing force, other than a coordinated oppositional force, which itself is centralizing and anti-anarchistic.

But, as our national governments tighten their grasp, they are conversely leaving more and more to the individual. Individuals will soon be responsible for procuring their own food, water, shelter, and security. So in a respect, anarchistic, or at least highly distributed forms are beginning to emerge. Whole black (not the race ) economies are supplanting the official. People are beginning to organize themselves into rural communities centered on a technologically modified agrarian ideology, I'm way way way into this. CNN is announcing, perhaps, major cuts. No one is dumb enough to believe that stuff anymore, as distributed and direct reporting is taking its place. McD's shares are down significantly, no one is eating that poison. I'm not a total doom and gloomer. Technology is transforming the world into a freer, realer, more personal, more informed (except for jags), more connected landscape, a technological anarchy. But that strengthening force MUST be counteracted by those seeking control. So we will get all types of centralized control mechanisms placed over us through trade agreements like the Trans-Pacific Partnership rather than through direct legislative action.

I don't know, dude. What would be the one best, most succinct, most realistic, most implementable (given natural human character and the damning laws of thermodynamics) treatise on the subject?

[AxeD]

nowasj, do you open carry?

It is (recently) illegal where I live. A court case in February made it legal to conceal carry, and when the local Sheriff's department stops dragging its feet and actually conforms its actions to the law and the constitution, I'll be carrying concealed.

Who would ever want to be in law enforcement in a place where it's legal to carry a gun?
Hell, any emergency service. The countless reports of violence against police, ambulance etc..

If I felt like I needed a gun walking down the street, I'd look into moving. Guess that's a bit naive though

[nowaysj]

I have needed and not had, as well as used a hand gun in self defense. Trust me, needing and not having is a real downer.

And if you refer to readily available information, crime rates plummet where citizens are allowed to carry, and inversely, where gun control is the strictest, crime rates explode.

I agree though, having to maintain a defensive posture in the public space is for the fucking birds, dude. I honestly just want to wear a speedo and walk around giving people hugs.

[bennyfroobs]

Do I believe that black people's behavior and social structure in America are contributing towards much of the very real suffering that those communities are going through? Fucks of yes, how could you not? OG suggested in the context of MB that young black men are fighting for survival in America, when we see in these latest two public incidences, these young men were fighting for drug paraphernalia to get high. I don't see those two things as the same.

I believe that if black families stayed together, taught their children, through example, the fundamentals of family life, and societal strength, if black parents didn't commit limited resources to drugs, cigarets, material possessions, and instead invested those resources into providing a stable, safe environment for their kids, perhaps schooling that is not provided by the government, you would have generations of very strong black people, with very intelligent and compassionate children, all of whom would be economically viable and would be impervious to the culture of death.

do u not believe that systematic oppression that forces a lot of people people to live these ways?

what u said about family structure being vital is undeniable, (often) broken people come from broken families... the most stable people come from the families that have the best relationships

so in this case its a vicious cycle

oppressed people > broken homes > naughty kids > crime > stereotyping > oppression ......

obv massively simplified version