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Postby xXGreenXx90 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:24 pm

Hello :-D,

I am using the se2200A for commentating but I'm trouble getting the audio loud enough when I talk. I turned up the volume on my interface but then when I talk loud or scream it clips like mad. The pad switch isn't helping me much either.

Any ideas?

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Postby rockonin » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:34 pm

Have you turned Phantom Power on, on your interface?
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Postby xXGreenXx90 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:46 pm

rockonin wrote:Have you turned Phantom Power on, on your interface?



Yes sir :) I have to otherwise my microphone wouldn't even work.

I also tried putting my -10DB padswitch on and turning up the interfaces volume but it still clips :\ I don't understand how other people manage to get their volume SO PERFECT LOUD and CLEAR! LISTEN TO THIS http://youtu.be/CzB4Q42fyCQ HOW<!

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Postby mks » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:17 am

Use a compressor. Set the threshold low enough for your voice and raise the gain.
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Postby ftwgmorm » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:29 pm

mks wrote:Use a compressor. Set the threshold low enough for your voice and raise the gain.


Or use a limiter, which would work much better than a compressor.
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Postby mks » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:43 pm

ftwgmorm wrote:
mks wrote:Use a compressor. Set the threshold low enough for your voice and raise the gain.


Or use a limiter, which would work much better than a compressor.


Did you finally get banned? Anyways, the reason I suggested a compressor is this:

xXGreenXx90 wrote:Hello :-D,

I am using the se2200A for commentating but I'm trouble getting the audio loud enough when I talk.


So if he is having a hard time getting the audio loud enough when he talks, a compressor would be a good tool for this.
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Postby AxeD » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:15 pm

Whether it's a compressor or a limiter only depends on the ratio really. Either would work, as long
as you set it right. Compressor makes sense though.
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Postby xXGreenXx90 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:45 am

mks wrote:Use a compressor. Set the threshold low enough for your voice and raise the gain.


Thanks, I'll try out a compressor :-D! Do you think it's better to record too low so you can't hear me or too loud so that it clips :\? Or should I record loud then just move way back from the microphone when I start to yell?

I don't see how other people get their voices so loud, full and clear. Like listen to this guy, what do you think he does to achieve this sound quality? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzB4Q42fyCQ


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Postby mks » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:55 am

Did you turn on phantom power?

Do you have an interface or mixer with phantom power that is able to run a condenser microphone?
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Postby xXGreenXx90 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:06 am

mks wrote:Did you turn on phantom power?

Do you have an interface or mixer with phantom power that is able to run a condenser microphone?


Yes :) I always have my phantom power on and I am using he se2200A! II cardoid condenser microphone on the Focus rite 2i2 interface.
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Postby mks » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:32 am

Right,

I've found this to be a pretty good guide:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep09/a ... deeasy.htm
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Postby nowaysj » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:14 am

This is like an extremely basic audio issue. If you think you know anything about audio, but don't know this, you don't know anything about audio.

Everything starts at the source, so in this case it is your voice. First thing is learn how to address the mic, how to talk into the mic, what angle works best, how close you want to get to the mic, how much bass/proximity effect you want, learn how to turn your head when you're about to use a p or other plosives, and learn how to speak in a clear full voice without a lot of dynamic range to it - if you go from whispering to shouting, your recording is necessarily going to have to be very low/quiet.

From there, set the gain on your amp so that your voice is peaking around -12db. I don't know if your interface has meters, or if your interface has software that has meters, it would be helpful if it did, or at least, check the meters in your daw that you're using to do the recording. Peaks at -12db are reasonable.

From there you should eq your voice, probably have to take out some sub, low end, and the muddy range centered around 250hz (See recent nwj newbie thread, a question asked by Lye Form). Find some other freqs that tend to get a little too hot, and do a little cut around them.

Then compress your voice. Work with those settings, and don't be surprised if you need a lot of compression. While compressors may not be totally helpful in electronic music, they are almost a necessity in audio recording. Compress the shit out of your voice. Then maybe you want a gate to take care of the room noise in between your words that is now going to be really noisy because of all the make up gain from the compressor. Now use a transparent peak limiter to pump even more volume out of your recording. If you have a good limiter, you can push like 5db into the red fairly transparently.

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Postby ftwgmorm » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:31 am

xXGreenXx90 wrote:
mks wrote:Use a compressor. Set the threshold low enough for your voice and raise the gain.


Thanks, I'll try out a compressor :-D! Do you think it's better to record too low so you can't hear me or too loud so that it clips :\? Or should I record loud then just move way back from the microphone when I start to yell?

I don't see how other people get their voices so loud, full and clear. Like listen to this guy, what do you think he does to achieve this sound quality? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzB4Q42fyCQ


Thanks :-)


I may recommend you iZotope Nectar. It is a plugin built especially for processing voice. It contains many useful modules, as well as tons of presets, which may get you going.

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Postby AxeD » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:53 pm

ftwgmorm wrote:
xXGreenXx90 wrote:
mks wrote:Use a compressor. Set the threshold low enough for your voice and raise the gain.


Thanks, I'll try out a compressor :-D! Do you think it's better to record too low so you can't hear me or too loud so that it clips :\? Or should I record loud then just move way back from the microphone when I start to yell?

I don't see how other people get their voices so loud, full and clear. Like listen to this guy, what do you think he does to achieve this sound quality? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzB4Q42fyCQ


Thanks :-)


I may recommend you iZotope Nectar. It is a plugin built especially for processing voice. It contains many useful modules, as well as tons of presets, which may get you going.

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Yes, it has finally happened.


Put the compressor on during recording dude. Any farkin compressor will do.
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Postby xXGreenXx90 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:05 pm

nowaysj wrote:This is like an extremely basic audio issue. If you think you know anything about audio, but don't know this, you don't know anything about audio.

Everything starts at the source, so in this case it is your voice. First thing is learn how to address the mic, how to talk into the mic, what angle works best, how close you want to get to the mic, how much bass/proximity effect you want, learn how to turn your head when you're about to use a p or other plosives, and learn how to speak in a clear full voice without a lot of dynamic range to it - if you go from whispering to shouting, your recording is necessarily going to have to be very low/quiet.

From there, set the gain on your amp so that your voice is peaking around -12db. I don't know if your interface has meters, or if your interface has software that has meters, it would be helpful if it did, or at least, check the meters in your daw that you're using to do the recording. Peaks at -12db are reasonable.

From there you should eq your voice, probably have to take out some sub, low end, and the muddy range centered around 250hz (See recent nwj newbie thread, a question asked by Lye Form). Find some other freqs that tend to get a little too hot, and do a little cut around them.

Then compress your voice. Work with those settings, and don't be surprised if you need a lot of compression. While compressors may not be totally helpful in electronic music, they are almost a necessity in audio recording. Compress the shit out of your voice. Then maybe you want a gate to take care of the room noise in between your words that is now going to be really noisy because of all the make up gain from the compressor. Now use a transparent peak limiter to pump even more volume out of your recording. If you have a good limiter, you can push like 5db into the red fairly transparently.

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Thanks so much! This was really helpful! I really appreciate the reply.
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