Sound Insulation

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:36 pm

Moved into this house with extreamly thin walls, mainly the celing. Even playing at (what i consider) a low level the guy upstairs can feel the bass and complains alot, which i understand.

I remember hearing about egg cartons being used as a simple and cheap option, but im unsure about how easily avaliable they are, and how effective they are if i coverd my roof in them?

Also, foam was discussed by me and him but i have no idea what i should be looking for with this. Ive looked on sound proofing sites but they all go into too much detail and are more long term options. (I wont be in the house longer than a year) I cant really tear the plaster off and install expensive foam insulation etc etc

If anyones got any links to places dealing with this, or personal experiense im desperate to reduce the noise and enjoy music again.

Ta in advance

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:44 pm

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chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:47 pm

theres quite a few sites who sell acoustic treatment (google-it)

i'd call a few companies up and ask for advice - then you get a broad range of solutions and compare the costs etc

also beware the sound waves reflecting off your walls may bounce to the ceiling and so some sort of solution on the walls could help too

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:52 pm

Yeh was thinking about hanging a duvet behind the speakers and getting a rug...don't know how much effect this would have on the bass going through though?

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:52 pm

kill your neighbor, hide his body in the river, and punch through the ceiling-- you get a duplex and no complaining about it.

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:54 pm

That sucks but this is sthg you're supposed to check before moving in...
Anyway, imo any room treatment is pointless if you're not the owner.
Know the schedules your neighbor isn't at home and use headphones the rest of the time...

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:56 pm

Daft tnuc wrote:That sucks but this is sthg you're supposed to check before moving in...
Anyway, imo any room treatment is pointless if you're not the owner.
Know the schedules your neighbor isn't at home and use headphones the rest of the time...

I'm not talking installing anything, just stapling foam or egg cartons onto the roof..

oh, and its hard to mix useing headphones only

LEQ · Post by **LEQ** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:06 pm

Covering the ceiling won't help too much to be honest although you could just get osme old carpet and use that, you need to create a space between the ceiling and then another layer of something and fill it with dense fibre glass or something. In saying that though thats a lot of work involved...you could just use some batons an inch thick and then fill that with the fibre glass.

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:11 pm

Thomas wrote:
Daft tnuc wrote:That sucks but this is sthg you're supposed to check before moving in...
Anyway, imo any room treatment is pointless if you're not the owner.
Know the schedules your neighbor isn't at home and use headphones the rest of the time...
I'm not talking installing anything, just stapling foam or egg cartons onto the roof..

oh, and its hard to mix useing headphones only

Erf... good luck then...

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:19 pm

LEQ wrote:you could just use some batons an inch thick and then fill that with the fibre glass.

How would that work? to be honest i dont even know what a baton is?!?!

Hasnt anyone here had to do this before, how do you deal with playing Dubstep in your house?

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:20 pm

Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is a room within a room.

All the foam and egg boxes (ARGH!) you see on the walls of studios are actually more to do with sound absorption and diffusion and don't really do anything to sound proof the room.

Perhaps you could buy your neighbour a pair of earplugs and a bottle of nice wine?

cryptic · Post by **cryptic** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:23 pm

Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is a room within a room.

LEQ · Post by **LEQ** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:25 pm

Thomas wrote:
LEQ wrote:you could just use some batons an inch thick and then fill that with the fibre glass.
How would that work? to be honest i dont even know what a baton is?!?!

Hasnt anyone here had to do this before, how do you deal with playing Dubstep in your house?

Pretty good forum here http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/ ... 91152.html
which is pretty helpful with things like this, might help. I'm rubbish at explaining things today, apologies.

misk · Post by **misk** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:06 pm

if you got some stunt blankets (those thick blankets they use on movie sets for stunt guys) and cut them into strips about 3 feet wide, and hung them vertically from the ceiling, that would help with bass waves, or better yet pin them to the ceiling completely and allow them to drape down so theres a lot of space between them and the ceiling and do this multiple times... i dont know.. get creative and see what you can do.

learning his schedule is also a good thing...

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:57 pm

go to your mates or a practice room or something?

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:11 pm

wizard wrote:go to your mates or a practice room or something?

None of my mates have decks, let alone like Dubstep.

Thanks for the info, learning his weekly time table seems the best option. Hes mentiond not being in during the day, and not minding it before 6 most days. But today he confessed its annoying.

I was in his room while playing it today, and i swear its hardly any rumble on the floor but he must be picky.

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:32 am

two oh one wrote:Unfortunately, the only real way to do it is a room within a room.

All the foam and egg boxes (ARGH!) you see on the walls of studios are actually more to do with sound absorption and diffusion and don't really do anything to sound proof the room.

absolutely correct, there's nothing you can do about sound travelling liks this. Egg boxes, and even the expensive acoustic treatments you can buy are only ACOUSTIC TREATMENTS i.e. they help to deaden the sound so that you can trust your monitors.

A mate of mine who's a fulltime professional producer/engineer/DJ runs a high-spec studio in his house and has major problems with his neighbours. Even spending £10k on 1-inch thick underfloor damping didn't help matters.

You're better off chatting to your neighbour, having a mature attitude about it and seeing if there are certain times of the day/week when you can make noise. Give them your phone numbers, tell them to call when you're too loud and you'll find them much more accepting of the situation and less likely to want to kill you.

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:45 pm

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:54 pm

make him interested in wanting to learn, then hook him up with some gear
problemo solved

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:08 pm

^ Don't you just love sensible replies?

Thinking, thanks for that mate. At least i know i don't have to spend any money. Ive already taken to mixing when my housemate is out or not studying.

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