TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

yeah def liked this lorn one





loved those two too not really mecha 100 percent but yeah anime over electronic music def works

[Harkat]

yo

Tuna time

first time submission. This ones now sounding a bit bad to my ears since I made it on tuesday, but I reckon I should stick to the deliver on saturday rule at least the first time. Was going for that memphis revival style beat, which is mostly what I'm making these days

edit: apparently i dont post the tune myself?

[nowaysj]

Pm to bud!

[Harkat]

what, should I PM someone? Whos bud? I tried to look up the dsf profile under "bud" and he had 2 posts, so i dont think its him.

[nowaysj]

BudSpencerTron

Or this guy:

Aufnahmewindwuschel

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

you can just post it as a soundcloud here too i will incorporate it later

[BudSpencertron]

ok little tuna this week


new tuna harkat
Soundcloud

Defaultuzr
Soundcloud

Aufnahmebud
Soundcloud

[nowaysj]

A track a person is nice. Ill have a track, unless the unforeseeable.

[nowaysj]

I'm not gonna make it for last week.

I'm sitting here, it is almost time to work on music, I don't know if I can do it, probably, but the song I've been working on is running through my head, like it is right there, like an auditory hallucination. I think actively listening to music changes your sound/musical imagination. I really didn't used to be able to hear music in my head like this. I used to hear songs I liked, you know, could sing along and what not, but not like this, this is like literally hearing exactly the music, all the little textures, positions in space.

Have any of you increased your musical imagination through active listening, or through years of production? I'm absolutely certain I've changed my brain.

[yilan]

Thats really cool. Are you ever able to translate that to an actual tune? I sometimes hear little parts (not a full song ) but I find I can never do that. I often find working on something, leaving it, then subconsciously thinking/singing/imagining it in the shower/making a cup of tea or whatever - I often get a good idea (and end up not making the tea and finishing the song lol). This includes just turning off my screen and lying on my bed too.

But repeated activity does change the brain, in all sorts of fields. Fairly sure this has been tested on musicians, but probably not for producers yet.

I've always been interested how composers can imagine whole symphonies in their head and write it down in sheet music, probably only playing one instrument at a time themselves. Its kind of the opposite of having computer sequencers where you can repeatedly hear what you have already have and audition new parts/ideas all the time.

I do remember reading about some study ages ago that found very similar brain activity between actually listening to a song and imagining it in your head. At the moment I work in an office where I could listen to music (admittedly on small earphones) nearly all day, and sometimes I do, but I find sometimes its literally like I can't imagine stuff in my head if I've been listening to too much music.

[nowaysj]

Are you ever able to translate that to an actual tune?

Naw, I was hearing a tune that I have been working on. Like I was hearing what I've done already. Whats more, it was a totally passive process, like I became aware this song was running in the back of my head. Like I'm certain it was just looping back there, and something, whatever it is that brings things from the unconscious to the conscious mind, something showed it to me, then I could listen to it like it was a recording.

I have, though, one time, about 23 years ago, heard an original composition in my head, like a full on electrical orchestra, mind this was before shit really went off, we're talking like 91. But just an incredible piece of music, it didn't bear much resemblance to any other music, like there were note events, melody, counterpoint, but it was all just so original. But absolutely, at the time, there is no way I could have reproduced it. It was a gallon sized thought for my shot glass sized mind, truly. Like I could appreciate it, but no chance of actually holding it.

But what I'm saying is that my musical imagination has increased, I think. I think I can hold larger musical/sound thoughts in there now (which is a great relief, given my past abilities) because of the time I've spent producing, and really very actively listening, really listening to what is happening in the music.

Like I think DJ's often make good music, because they have to actively listen to the music they are playing, they are analyzing at a level a passive listener isn't. Anyway, waffle is complete.

Couldn't work on music today.

[yilan]

Ah I see what you mean, thats cool and pretty useful. I'd say is totally possible your musical imagination has increased just like playing an instrument would help. The only difference is producing is more about the whole/all the instruments together, and its probably harder to measure performance.

You're definitely right about DJs, I've got into it fairly recently compared to production but I think it helps immensely.

Does anyone ever sit away from a computer then actively try to imagine parts/an entire song then try and translate it? I do it passively (like if an idea pops in my head) but I might try giving an active approach a try. I used to start of with more conceptual ideas (like combine x with y) but I almost always abandon it half way through then just go with whatever direction the song is going in.

[yilan]

x and y being some ridculously opposed genres/styles like noisecore and garage. i couldnt meld them but someones probably made it work somewhere

[faultier]

I'm sitting here, it is almost time to work on music, I don't know if I can do it, probably, but the song I've been working on is running through my head, like it is right there, like an auditory hallucination. I think actively listening to music changes your sound/musical imagination. I really didn't used to be able to hear music in my head like this. I used to hear songs I liked, you know, could sing along and what not, but not like this, this is like literally hearing exactly the music, all the little textures, positions in space.

Have any of you increased your musical imagination through active listening, or through years of production? I'm absolutely certain I've changed my brain.

mmm this sounds like something i would like to be able to do, but i have a hard time with abstractions in general, also i think my brain started to calcify or something, i'm afraid it won't learn new tricks anymore

off topic: @yilan, had a thorough listen to the stuff on your sc yesterday, some tight beats in there

[nowaysj]

Does anyone ever sit away from a computer then actively try to imagine parts/an entire song then try and translate it?

Now that I think about it, I have been doing more of that. Yeah, it all goes out the window once I start working on the tune, though. Usually as soon as I select the kick, boooom off in another direction no will power in that regard, at all.

But, my process has been way more piecemeal. Doing one little edit or addition, and letting it sit. So much better for me. There is an exponential relationship between the amount of suck and the amount of continual time I spend on a song. The way I work now, I have to just break it up. Like once I've made it past a certain point. You know that point, where the first session, comes to an end, the end of that first flow? From there, I cannot continue to plow on for hours. I have to just put it down, and come back to it. I make the shitiest decisions.

[nowaysj]

i think my brain started to calcify or something, i'm afraid it won't learn new tricks anymore

I really don't think so. My brain literally has lesions throughout it, but still, apparently, learning new tricks, and a pretty neat trick at that. I think the thing really is as plastic as they suggest.

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

yeah sometimes i have days where i can work on 10 tunes in a row and all comes easy but thats like once a month haha or less but i love those days

i guess you have to be careful to not overheat your head thats my feeling forcing music can break sth haha

ok my feedback

@harkat
i guess lofi :3 i dont feel the main kicksample i think hm i like it more when the vocals start maybe lowpass the kick or try a smoother one haha its tuff i like the clap
maybe find a kick that sits in the same place
and the part at 1.40 onwards i really like would listen to a tune like this feels more like one piece than the rest

the dirty 808 and vocal choice is nice though all the way

@defaultuzr
smooth feeling right away
nice deep sub you could raise the volume when done a good bit but works as dynamic as it is too
feel it so far everythings there just maybe some more hype/power in some parts
those little crackle sounds and clicks and cuts add alot
i would say just raise the volume a bit and see how it changes the feeling but its a nice little tune

[Harkat]

I know my tune is weak as fuck this time

not a good week in terms of production tbh

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

ah dunno man the end part isnt really that bad

[faultier]

But, my process has been way more piecemeal. Doing one little edit or addition, and letting it sit. So much better for me. There is an exponential relationship between the amount of suck and the amount of continual time I spend on a song. The way I work now, I have to just break it up. Like once I've made it past a certain point. You know that point, where the first session, comes to an end, the end of that first flow? From there, I cannot continue to plow on for hours. I have to just put it down, and come back to it. I make the shitiest decisions.

i wish i could do that, in retrospect i find that the only tunes i still like months/years after i let them out are the ones i made in one, maybe two sessions.
when i work on tunes longer i tend to get lost, piling shitty decisions on shitty decisions until the point i abandon all hope of ever reaching satisfaction with the tune and moves on to ruining another one

also re: having no control over the direction a track takes > exactly the reason why i dont think i'm capable of making a consistent set of tunes for an EP, let alone an album

oh well, i still owe you guys feedback, will get on it