How much to invest in your set up.

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:22 pm

^That is pretty much where I started seven years ago man ;p About two to three years ago I decided I didn't want to *always* use a mouse and qwerty keyboard to make music, so I invested in other options and it opened up an entire world for me. You gotta start somewhere.

Ema_geodiV · Post by **Ema_geodiV** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:41 pm

fragments wrote:^That is pretty much where I started seven years ago man ;p About two to three years ago I decided I didn't want to *always* use a mouse and qwerty keyboard to make music, so I invested in other options and it opened up an entire world for me. You gotta start somewhere.

Oh really?

I don't really use my mouse that often actually... coz take a look at that touch pad

and sorry about my hair clip I didn't noticed that crap was there

Should I get monitors soon? Coz everybody wants me to get monitors instead of a good pair of headphones

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:49 pm

Ema_geodiV wrote:
fragments wrote:^That is pretty much where I started seven years ago man ;p About two to three years ago I decided I didn't want to *always* use a mouse and qwerty keyboard to make music, so I invested in other options and it opened up an entire world for me. You gotta start somewhere.
Oh really? I don't really use my mouse that often actually... coz take a look at that touch pad and sorry about my hair clip I didn't noticed that crap was there Should I get monitors soon? Coz everybody wants me to get monitors instead of a good pair of headphones

Who is "everybody"?

What is your budget?

A good pair of headphones won't go unused in *any* studio. So, that is a sound investment IMO. I'm just throwing a number out there, but generally speaking 300 dollars gets you pretty great headphones you won't feel the need to upgrade anytime soon. Where as a 300 dollar pair of monitors basically isn't worth the money unless you just like working on speakers better (I do because of ear fatigue), or maybe if you buy used you could get something decent for 300 dollars. As far as cost to benefit ratio for a beginner on a budget headphones are the way to go.

Ema_geodiV · Post by **Ema_geodiV** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:00 pm

^ I have a friend who does music production and most of his friends are in to that stuff too, and they always and always ask me to buy monitors not headphones. I don't want to take their advice 'coz I personally like working with headphones 'coz I can hear and look out for errors much clearly

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:28 pm

Everybody has their own way, but probably at some point should have both. I can't stand working in headphones. It is punishment for not getting my work done before 10pm.

But yeah, you do need to check, and listen closely, etc.

Ema_geodiV · Post by **Ema_geodiV** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:40 pm

nowaysj wrote:Everybody has their own way, but probably at some point should have both. I can't stand working in headphones. It is punishment for not getting my work done before 10pm.

But yeah, you do need to check, and listen closely, etc.

I think headphones are better when you're working with your track to make small changes and details, and monitors are better when you're almost finish with your track and you'll be just working with the arrangements and build ups. Idk that's how i see it I could be wrong

fragments wrote:What is your budget?

Not that much :/ I'm planning to get myself an AKG headphones with a price range of $100-$150

RKM · Post by **RKM** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:46 pm

quite how much of a no-no is using hi fi speakers, got a really nice set a while back because i wanted something i could use for home listening for a long time and mainly make music on them because headphones get irritating

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:55 pm

(I do because of ear fatigue)

Me too.

Get monitors and befriend your neighbours

Ema

Ema_geodiV · Post by **Ema_geodiV** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:59 pm

hubb wrote:
(I do because of ear fatigue)
Me too.

Get monitors and befriend your neighbours Ema

Well my neighbor praised me before coz He over heard me playing the guitar ( elec guitar with an amp). I don't want to ruin it by making him listen to my crappy experimental songs

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:06 pm

RKM wrote:quite how much of a no-no is using hi fi speakers, got a really nice set a while back because i wanted something i could use for home listening for a long time and mainly make music on them because headphones get irritating

You know, on one hand it kind of is because you could make some really odd erronious (?) sounds outside of the hifi's spectrum/ range... that would then come up when listening elsewhere..

but on the other, your tracks sound pretty good as is so there's only a positive side right now... in a way you could just continue and then once in a while look forward to getting some when you have the dough, because they will improve your listening or judging ability.. pretty quickly..

making tune after tune after tune is > anything else and you are already in the middle of doing that !

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:38 pm

Hifi sounds too good though. Hifi is not really about fidelity, it is about sweetness.

If you work on good sounding hifi your song will sound like shit.

If you work on shitty flat monitors, your song will sound good.

Ostensibly.

SilentGhost · Post by **SilentGhost** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:06 pm

I've spent so much smh...freakin g.a.s man...beware once you start its hard to stop.

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:09 pm

[quote][/quote]
http://pitchfork.com/features/cover-sto ... twin/#syro

great points about systems and studios in there

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:27 pm

With gear there are two high points with a gnarly valley in between - when you first get something, you come up with all this great shit, exploring the device, doing things wrong, finding one feature and really exploiting it, because you don't really know how to use other features, all that stuff... then when you've got the thing figured out, you enter the valley. Nothing comes here. The gear is just a musical instrument at this point, or a processor. It is just an expression of you. But after a long long time producing shit with the thing, you get to the point where you've mastered it, and it is like sex, you and the gear vibeing, making babies. IMO.

Re syro, I've hardly got the kit list, but I do have a closet. I have a core signal path, and then a patch bay that lets me get modular, and just bring in other devices. I agree re keep changing things up in the studio, for whatever reason, I just get bored of working with the same gear in the same configuration after a while. There is nothing wrong with it, but, I don't know, you spend so much time using the same thing, staring at the same thing, you just want something different. I am down with that.

This article could be posted in the thinking out loud thread

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:40 pm

No doubt.

I thought it might serve as some form of standard, or at least as a notion that even Aphex isn't really sure what to buy either.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:38 pm

I think everything is the answer to that question.

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:01 pm

yeah, I mean he gets that output despite not having an idea of what he wants (or having an idea that everything could be used ofcourse)..

I find it somewhat freeing that there isn't that much of a preference..

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:06 pm

yeah, I mean he gets that output despite not having an idea of what he wants (or having an idea that everything could be used ofcourse)..

I find it somewhat freeing that there isn't that much of a preference..

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:23 pm

Speaking of preference, I now get to choose which of your posts I don't understand.

hubb · Post by **hubb** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:28 pm

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