Wizooverb W2

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:51 pm

What kind of computer do you need to run this plug?
My C2D 2.1ghz + 2go RAM + E-MU 1212m can't seem to run 2 instances of that thing... Even for 1 I've to increase latency to 50ms...

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:10 pm

this by the sounds of it!!

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:06 am

I know some people here are using it. I'm really curious how they cope with it...

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:07 am

Daft tnuc wrote:I know some people here are using it. I'm really curious how they cope with it...

i can use 2 with other plug ins without much problem, why you'd need more than two is beyond me though

auan · Post by **auan** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:47 pm

I only had the trail for a little while, but yeah, I remember it eating CPU like a fat kid. It and Massive running together really pushed my shite machine.

And yeah, why you need two? I'd use CSR for the shorter, hardly noticable verbs, maybe Wizoo just for the longer ones.

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:29 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:
Daft tnuc wrote:I know some people here are using it. I'm really curious how they cope with it...
i can use 2 with other plug ins without much problem, why you'd need more than two is beyond me though

I'm used to low cpu usage reverbs so basicly I don't resample snares and things like that so usually there are more than 2 reverbs per tune...
I guess I have to resample more and keep using lower reverbs but I don't think Wizooverb is the right tool for me anyway.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:54 pm

try ambience- if you haven't already.

Don't you use reverb as a send?

decklyn · Post by **decklyn** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:15 pm

There are certainly no rules - if it sounds good, it is good,

but IMO more than 2 verbs can confuse the sense of space in a tune.

If using two verbs, try them both with identical settings (usually lustrously large for dubstep), and have one with some pre-delay on the verb, so it takes a second for the reverb to get here.

Then when building the space, you can send things farther back in the mix by sending them to the verb with no pre-delay, and you can bring things in front of you by sending them to the verb with the predelay. If you are in a church and someone is standing infront of you, you'll notice thier voice before the verb. The organ and choir way up in the rafters is going to hit your ears mixed with all of the reverberation.

Traditionally in dub production the rules are bent as an artistry, though, so do what ever makes you put on your dutty bass face.

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:20 pm

Just installed Ambience yesterday. Pretty awesome.

No, I never really tried to use reverb as a send because I thought it was better to have more control over each track... Is that wrong?

EDIT :

decklyn wrote:There are certainly no rules - if it sounds good, it is good,

but IMO more than 2 verbs can confuse the sense of space in a tune.

If using two verbs, try them both with identical settings (usually lustrously large for dubstep), and have one with some pre-delay on the verb, so it takes a second for the reverb to get here.

Then when building the space, you can send things farther back in the mix by sending them to the verb with no pre-delay, and you can bring things in front of you by sending them to the verb with the predelay. If you are in a church and someone is standing infront of you, you'll notice thier voice before the verb. The organ and choir way up in the rafters is going to hit your ears mixed with all of the reverberation.

Traditionally in dub production the rules are bent as an artistry, though, so do what ever makes you put on your dutty bass face.

Safe mate

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:22 pm

Daft tnuc wrote:Just installed Ambience yesterday. Pretty awesome.

No, I never really tried to use reverb as a send because I thought it was better to have more control over each track... Is that wrong?

reverbs are usually used as sends!

If you set up a reverb then send differing amounts of your tracks to it then it puts them in the same "space" ie they sound more together

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:24 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:
Daft tnuc wrote:Just installed Ambience yesterday. Pretty awesome.

No, I never really tried to use reverb as a send because I thought it was better to have more control over each track... Is that wrong?
reverbs are usually used as sends!

If you set up a reverb then send differing amounts of your tracks to it then it puts them in the same "space" ie they sound more together

It does make sense btw... Thanks!

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