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CCRU?

Post by slim » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:43 pm

Have been reading a bit about kode9's involvement in this organisation for a while, and thought i would have a look and investigate. Their website was fairy incomprehensible, which led me to their glossary, which confused me more.

Can anyone give me an idiot's-eye-view of what they are about and the basics of their ideas?

Would be grateful, cheers

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Post by tusk » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:20 pm

Ive just started penetrating CCRU stuff myself. The central working concept seems to be Hyperstition. Memetic culture viruses (stories) that are both real and not real. Lots of Lovecraftian overtones as well...

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Post by classagraphics » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:52 pm

can you point to the site or something, i found stuff on repratriating northern ireland and coastal conservation or something

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Post by tusk » Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:45 pm

www.ccru.net

hasnt been updated in ages, but fascinating content none the less.

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Post by adruu » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:58 am

it's a secret...shhhhh! =)

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Post by chunkie » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:44 pm

most recent info i've found

http://hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org/

the books:

In case the new announcement for Collapse III hasn't reached the dark side of the Net, you might be interested to take a look at its table of contents and even consider ordering it. Since the first issue (Numeric Materialism), Collapse has proved to be an outstanding journal of philosophy which simultaneously defies the swamps of academia and rigorously ravages the overpopulated territories of post-structural / post modernist theories. For those who are solely interested in hyperstitional and political themes, Collapse I has articles on Qabalah, Prime Numbers and desert war machines traversing War on Terror, including an utterly compelling essay by Nick Land. Collapse II has two articles which stand out among the rest of contributions: Quentin Meillassoux and Ray Brassier's essays. Brassier's essay scrutinizes -- in a technical and superbly literate way -- the enigma of realism and an alternative causality capable of perforating the real. It is a piece which silently exudes a Lovecraftian dilemma on reality and intelligibility in regard to cosmic abyss (realism of horror). Collapse III (the forthcoming issue, Unknown Deleuze) is, as it confesses, a remobilization of Deleuze's thought against the specter of a post-Deleuzian era and a philosophic age choked by the reckless fecundity of Deleuzians. In addition, Collapse III includes two previously unpublished English translations of Deleuze and a science-fiction story by J.-H. Rosney the Elder who elusively lurks in Difference and Repetition. Whereas Lovecraft and Professor Challenger expose the undertones of A Thousand Plateaus, Rosney and Doctor Van den Heuvel (absent in Deleuze's book) encapsulates the themes presented in Difference and Repetition. The term Inverse-Lovecraft rightly suits Rosney. Collapse III also includes the full transcription of the Speculative Realism conference at Goldsmiths University of London. The document features a fresh appearance from Iain Hamilton Grant who has been working on his now complete infernal machine, On Artificial Earth: Philosophies of Nature after Schelling. The Speculative Realism document is particularly important for a thoroughgoing discussion on horror, realism, causality and the truth of extinction.



P.S - i do get stuck into a bit of philosophy and have just bought Collapse vol.3

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Post by chunkie » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:48 pm

damn ease of paypal sucking me in....

just bought vols 1 & 2 as well :o

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Post by chunkie » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:05 pm

also found this:

If talking about music is like dancing about architecture, then a conference dedicated to the very boundaries between music and noise promised to be quite the architecture-themed knees-up............

While other speakers were less gloomy about the failures involved in sonic experimentation (especially if the very success of modern art/music/noise is its 'dramatisation of its own failure', an idea reiterated ad nauseum), it fell to two practitioners to present a more positive picture. Steve Goodman (hyperdub/Ccru) intriguinginly proposed a hydrodynamics both of rhythm and of crowd behaviour, utilising chaos physics and complex dynamics to cut across the nature/culture distinction

http://www.cinestatic.com/whorecull/mus ... rchive.asp.

from 2004 but thats Kode9

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Post by tusk » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:17 pm

Oooooh. Exciting! Many Thanks Chunkie.

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Post by 4linehaiku » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:46 pm

On a related note, does anyone know where I can get a copy of More Brilliant Than the Sun by Kodwo Eshun? It's on Amazon but it was about £100 or something stupid like that. It looks pretty interesting, but not THAT interesting, you know?
With both the CCRU stuff and Eshun to a lesser extent, the constant and pointless use of what they would doubtless refer to as hyperjargon grates after about, oh, a paragraph or so. Obfuscution as an artform isn't the most fun going.

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Post by tusk » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:31 pm

It seems like the use of "hyperjargon" is more about creating an atmosphere or speeding up the rhytmic cadence of the reading. I definetly find myself skimming the specifics and groking the essense with a lot of CCRU stuff.

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Post by chunkie » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:35 am

4linehaiku wrote:On a related note, does anyone know where I can get a copy of More Brilliant Than the Sun by Kodwo Eshun? It's on Amazon but it was about £100 or something stupid like that. It looks pretty interesting, but not THAT interesting, you know?
With both the CCRU stuff and Eshun to a lesser extent, the constant and pointless use of what they would doubtless refer to as hyperjargon grates after about, oh, a paragraph or so. Obfuscution as an artform isn't the most fun going.
http://www.bookzone.co.uk/rp=193164,info=1190264

re-issue £10, be quick mate!!

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Post by 4linehaiku » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:40 pm

Cheers, just ordered it.

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Post by fractal » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:05 pm

sub.wise:.
slow down
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Post by rekordah » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:21 am

Chunkie wrote: http://www.bookzone.co.uk/rp=193164,info=1190264

re-issue £10, be quick mate!!
Website doesn't look too clever, u ordered from them b4?
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Post by parson » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:07 am

how come i talk about aliens and atlantis and i'm nuts but kode 9 talks about lemurian demonism and its genius

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Post by djelements » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:08 am

Parson wrote:how come i talk about aliens and atlantis and i'm nuts but kode 9 talks about lemurian demonism and its genius
I think you're both off your respective rockers, but still cool folks.
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Post by parson » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:11 am

there is not a roll-eyes emoticon big enough

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Post by fractal » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:54 am

Parson wrote:... i talk about aliens and atlantis ...
link pls
sub.wise:.
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