SUBBASS AND FLANGER?

[MARCHMELLOW]

Me again

One morning after a night out to see skream me and a friend were discussing how to EQ sub bass...as you do after seeing skream.

well, my friend was trying to explain a special setting in a flanger that he uses on his Sub to make it resonate better... but at 8am after copious amounts of... it didn't comeout too well/i don't remember it too well


has anyone heard of using a Flanger effect on your sub bass, if so, can you reveal the settings>!??.....

Safe!

[sherbert mastodon]

Can't say I remember trying..... let us know the result of your experiments!

[untold]

a slow or static frequency rate with high depth/feedback will give a metallic sound to bass.

Automate the delay time for some mad effects

Try putting the flanger on a separate bus & mixing with the original if it loses weight. Maybe hi pass slightly the bus if its sounding muddy

Listen out for phase cancellation.
http://www.sweetwater.com/expert-center ... ncellation

its safer to make it mono after processing

[noodle]

it'd have to be some seriously tweaked flanger to get something that doesn't, as the above said, give phase cancellation. Also it can make bass peak like nowt else sometimes.
So yea, careful tweaking and lots of time spent on it could come up with some nice results.

[janner]

sub bass is best in mono or rather if you get a tune professionally mastered the sub freqs will be monoed by the sound engineer as a matter of course. Flangers usually operate in stereo so straight away it goes against convention in terms of standard sound engineering technique (NOT that that means that it shouldn't be tried, but it's worth thinking about if you're aiming at future releases).

plus in my view sub bass is done best with a sine wave, which as a waveform has limited harmonic content so there is not much in there for the flanger to flange anyway! i recently learned that some people use 808 kicks for sub but they're very similar to sines in terms of waveform so i'd expect the same logic to apply

by all means apply flanger to more toppy bass and lead riffs in order to enhance harmonic content & stero width. this can produce GREAT results and can make the bassline seem much much phatter. However it's an illusion cos you are not affecting the sub! in my view sub & flange is not an obvious combination

my choice plugin for nice warm unbaised sub bass enhancement is the Crysonic newB http://www.crysonic.com/newb.html

but i have no idea what skream uses

[skrewface]

sub bass is best in mono or rather if you get a tune professionally mastered the sub freqs will be monoed by the sound engineer as a matter of course. Flangers usually operate in stereo so straight away it goes against convention in terms of standard sound engineering technique (NOT that that means that it shouldn't be tried, but it's worth thinking about if you're aiming at future releases).

plus in my view sub bass is done best with a sine wave, which as a waveform has limited harmonic content so there is not much in there for the flanger to flange anyway! i recently learned that some people use 808 kicks for sub but they're very similar to sines in terms of waveform so i'd expect the same logic to apply

by all means apply flanger to more toppy bass and lead riffs in order to enhance harmonic content & stero width. this can produce GREAT results and can make the bassline seem much much phatter. However it's an illusion cos you are not affecting the sub! in my view sub & flange is not an obvious combination

my choice plugin for nice warm unbaised sub bass enhancement is the Crysonic newB http://www.crysonic.com/newb.html

but i have no idea what skream uses

NewB you say eeh? I'll might peep the little fella out.
Does it require SSE?

[MARCHMELLOW]

sub bass is best in mono or rather if you get a tune professionally mastered the sub freqs will be monoed by the sound engineer as a matter of course. Flangers usually operate in stereo so straight away it goes against convention in terms of standard sound engineering technique (NOT that that means that it shouldn't be tried, but it's worth thinking about if you're aiming at future releases).

plus in my view sub bass is done best with a sine wave, which as a waveform has limited harmonic content so there is not much in there for the flanger to flange anyway! i recently learned that some people use 808 kicks for sub but they're very similar to sines in terms of waveform so i'd expect the same logic to apply

by all means apply flanger to more toppy bass and lead riffs in order to enhance harmonic content & stero width. this can produce GREAT results and can make the bassline seem much much phatter. However it's an illusion cos you are not affecting the sub! in my view sub & flange is not an obvious combination

my choice plugin for nice warm unbaised sub bass enhancement is the Crysonic newB http://www.crysonic.com/newb.html

but i have no idea what skream uses

i will definitly give that plug in a go! the main reason i bought this topic up was to find out if this strange flanger/Sub combo was just a myth, but to also find out any other things people use to enhance the Sub, so this should be right up my street.

[drwurst]

talking bout skream

in the skream tune calous (www.myspace.com/skreamuk)
there are some bass breaks with very serious modulation
first the overall bass sound kills me over and over again,
second there could be some flanger phaser involved asides from the pitchbend modulation...?
any ideas?

[chunkie]

by all means apply flanger to more toppy bass and lead riffs in order to enhance harmonic content & stero width. this can produce GREAT results and can make the bassline seem much much phatter.

this is where i use flange bass-wise (if at all)

in my d'n'b stuff where theres layers of bass i'll apply flange to the higher-frequency bass signals and the impression of width and bass in general is enlarged

applying flange to sub/deep signals seems like you'll ruin the depth and end with bass thats good for aiwa hi-fis

[somejerk]

make sure everything below 200hz is completely mono or it will kill your mix.

[batfink]

try flangers, phasers (quad phaser be nice) and layer them up.

for example, get a subtle slow sweeping flanger to keep the sound morphing gently (keeps the sound from getting boring) then overlay other faster more mental phasers to keep it interesting. but yeah, dont do it to sub bass, seperate that out and keep it clean, just use it on the upper bass bits.... 150hz and above ish...