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Post by dopplegangbanger » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:21 pm

Corpsey wrote:It's amazing that people can get so worked up over a genre of music.

I think it's just a reflection of the type of people that go on music forums generally- a lot of them have lives that are more dominated by music, they think about it more, they want to discuss it and define it and I suppose ultimately in a sense control it.

But I don't think this forum is perhaps as representative as it once may have been of the 'scene'. Go to most big nights and the dissenting voices on this forum would amount to a quite small group of people standing at the back moaning and sighing in time to the wubwubs.

I suppose there's a lot of anxiety in the strength of that dissent, and it will probably escalate if a status quo becomes more established in the music- after all, nobody wants to become marginalised. For me the question has never ultimately been about whether or not I think a certain kind of tune is shit- as Blackdown said in that thread about macho wobbler tunes, it's about a question of balance. I've never liked everything dubstep had to offer, even in 2005 when the standard was (imo) generally higher- but what I liked was that what I did like was given as much room as what I didn't. I don't think anybody wants or expects to control the direction the music goes in, but people can't be expected not to express their concern or anxiety over what they perceive as the possible marginalisation of deeper more atmospheric and rhytmically interesting music. I agree though that terms like 'clownstep' don't really help anyone, just as the term 'neekstep' (generally found in dnb though not yet in dubstep- although how long will that take if 'clownstep' is already being thrown about?) doesn't help anyone.

There are plenty of producers, DJs and nights catering for those people who don't want to hear wall to wall wobblers and dubstep is in a very healthy state really. But then I suppose even that is showcasing a split.

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Post by pdomino » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:28 pm

TS (yesyesIOW) wrote:colonic irrigation gurn in full effect
ha ha killed me :!:

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Post by diablo » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:48 pm

pdomino wrote:
TS (yesyesIOW) wrote:colonic irrigation gurn in full effect
ha ha killed me :!:

BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

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Post by grooki » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:30 am

^^
plus that first track was quite IMO :) TC wasn't so good though...

I don't know what the problem is, comes down to personal taste doesn't it?

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Post by ory » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:47 am

Dubstep Allstars 5 is probably the best example of this phenomenon in dubstep to date. Where's the Kode9, Mala, Appleblim, Shackleton, Boxcutter, Darqwan, Milanese, Vex'd, Burial, Geiom, Blackdown, Quest, Silkie, Martyn and 2562? It's such an obvious divide when you look at what was included: Skream, Benga, Kromestar, Rusko, Caspa, The Others, Juju, Hatcha, Tes La Rok, Magnetic Man, Coki and, of course, N-Type. It's frankly comical.

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Post by sines » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:48 am

oh noes its turning into dnb! :o

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Post by OoGuN » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:39 am

What
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Eh?

though some of it made me laugh..
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Post by jred » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:24 am

OoGuN wrote:What
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Eh?

though some of it made me laugh..
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Post by relaks » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:56 am

Corpsey wrote:It's amazing that people can get so worked up over a genre of music.

I think it's just a reflection of the type of people that go on music forums generally- a lot of them have lives that are more dominated by music, they think about it more, they want to discuss it and define it and I suppose ultimately in a sense control it.

But I don't think this forum is perhaps as representative as it once may have been of the 'scene'. Go to most big nights and the dissenting voices on this forum would amount to a quite small group of people standing at the back moaning and sighing in time to the wubwubs.

I suppose there's a lot of anxiety in the strength of that dissent, and it will probably escalate if a status quo becomes more established in the music- after all, nobody wants to become marginalised. For me the question has never ultimately been about whether or not I think a certain kind of tune is shit- as Blackdown said in that thread about macho wobbler tunes, it's about a question of balance. I've never liked everything dubstep had to offer, even in 2005 when the standard was (imo) generally higher- but what I liked was that what I did like was given as much room as what I didn't. I don't think anybody wants or expects to control the direction the music goes in, but people can't be expected not to express their concern or anxiety over what they perceive as the possible marginalisation of deeper more atmospheric and rhytmically interesting music. I agree though that terms like 'clownstep' don't really help anyone, just as the term 'neekstep' (generally found in dnb though not yet in dubstep- although how long will that take if 'clownstep' is already being thrown about?) doesn't help anyone.

There are plenty of producers, DJs and nights catering for those people who don't want to hear wall to wall wobblers and dubstep is in a very healthy state really. But then I suppose even that is showcasing a split.

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Post by incyde » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:56 am

Ory wrote:Dubstep Allstars 5 is probably the best example of this phenomenon in dubstep to date. Where's the Kode9, Mala, Appleblim, Shackleton, Boxcutter, Darqwan, Milanese, Vex'd, Burial, Geiom, Blackdown, Quest, Silkie, Martyn and 2562? It's such an obvious divide when you look at what was included: Skream, Benga, Kromestar, Rusko, Caspa, The Others, Juju, Hatcha, Tes La Rok, Magnetic Man, Coki and, of course, N-Type. It's frankly comical.
That's why a different DJ (Appleblim) is doing the next one, who will undoubtedly deliver a different selection of dubstep flavors. Are you saying every mix CD should include a bit of everyone? That would make evrythiing a bit bland...
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Post by fractal » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:07 am

incyde wrote:
Ory wrote:Dubstep Allstars 5 is probably the best example of this phenomenon in dubstep to date. Where's the Kode9, Mala, Appleblim, Shackleton, Boxcutter, Darqwan, Milanese, Vex'd, Burial, Geiom, Blackdown, Quest, Silkie, Martyn and 2562? It's such an obvious divide when you look at what was included: Skream, Benga, Kromestar, Rusko, Caspa, The Others, Juju, Hatcha, Tes La Rok, Magnetic Man, Coki and, of course, N-Type. It's frankly comical.
That's why a different DJ (Appleblim) is doing the next one, who will undoubtedly deliver a different selection of dubstep flavors. Are you saying every mix CD should include a bit of everyone? That would make evrythiing a bit bland...
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and frankly im stoked theres dubstep out there that doesnt appeal to me, it shows growth and diversity... why let the differences divide us? lets celebrate and encourage the progressive diversification of our music, together
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Post by metalboxproducts » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:27 am

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Dubstepper wrote: Are you 2 guys fucking shitting my leg or what?? Allstars5 is a badboy production with big boy tunes mixed by the Dubstep God himself N-Type. Sorry but you 2 guys get a big FUCKKKKK OFFFFFFF from me;)
Dubstep must not be for you then, mabe time to go listen to spice girls or britney spears or what ever else floats your boat coz Dubstep obviously dont..
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Post by corpsey » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:51 am

Dopplegangbanger wrote: say somthing funny about masturbating.
Uhhh... let's all get a grip, something like that

A grip on our COCKS, obviously

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Post by ory » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:52 am

incyde wrote:
Ory wrote:Dubstep Allstars 5 is probably the best example of this phenomenon in dubstep to date. Where's the Kode9, Mala, Appleblim, Shackleton, Boxcutter, Darqwan, Milanese, Vex'd, Burial, Geiom, Blackdown, Quest, Silkie, Martyn and 2562? It's such an obvious divide when you look at what was included: Skream, Benga, Kromestar, Rusko, Caspa, The Others, Juju, Hatcha, Tes La Rok, Magnetic Man, Coki and, of course, N-Type. It's frankly comical.
That's why a different DJ (Appleblim) is doing the next one, who will undoubtedly deliver a different selection of dubstep flavors. Are you saying every mix CD should include a bit of everyone? That would make evrythiing a bit bland...


That was in response to N-Type's comment: "there are tunes from all sides of dubstep on that album."

Which is blatantly untrue.

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Post by shonky » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:54 am

Corpsey wrote:
Dopplegangbanger wrote: say somthing funny about masturbating.
Uhhh... let's all get a grip, something like that

A grip on our COCKS, obviously

Well done Corpsey, well done. :D

Do you get the feeling you're being typecast?
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Post by corpsey » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:03 am

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Post by a_k47 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:26 am

Joe C wrote:isnt Clownstep a type of DNB?
i think dubstep is slowly steppin to name
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Post by ufo over easy » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:38 am

OoGuN wrote:What
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Eh?
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Post by n-type » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:14 am

Ory wrote:
That was in response to N-Type's comment: "there are tunes from all sides of dubstep on that album."

Which is blatantly untrue.
ok maybe not EVERY type of dubstep (like every producer in the scene hahahahah.) Anyways I like all the different styles of dubstep but I keep my sets energetic! that is my style! On my radio shows i play sum different stuff in a club i play more energy, or when i play with say youngsta we do a journey through the sound.

"there are tunes from all sides of dubstep on that album."

Cant you hear the difference in style to caspa and rusko tune to say distance (both featured on the album)? There are different styles on there! without dought! thats what i was trying to say.
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Post by equinox » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:47 am

Bob Crunkhouse wrote:dubstep allstars 5
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