frequency's for gritty bass sounds

[MARCHMELLOW]

hello production peeps

ok i've started cross over to the dark side for a bit, give 'love-step' a break, start actually using my virus instead of stroking it...haha

After having a bit of trouble with getting some gritty sounds to sit correct in the mix i ran them through a spectrum analyzer.

this basically showed me that the gritty sounds were way to widely spread over the frequency spectrum, causing muddy mixes and other sounds being lost in the mix.

but i'm a little stuck as to where to cut and boost frequencies of these gritty sounds.

does anyone know generally ( not specifically) what frequencies gritty bass sounds should sit in??

cheers !!

[theonelikepaul]

Without quoting numbers, I'd say just above your sub.

Like sometimes I'll make my sub bass for the low end weight, then I will duplicate it and run the other copy through distortion and high pass it.

You can also then send a little of the high passed distorted channel into some reverb for a some extra darkness.

[forensix (mcr)]

hello production peeps

ok i've started cross over to the dark side for a bit, give 'love-step' a break, start actually using my virus instead of stroking it...haha

After having a bit of trouble with getting some gritty sounds to sit correct in the mix i ran them through a spectrum analyzer.

this basically showed me that the gritty sounds were way to widely spread over the frequency spectrum, causing muddy mixes and other sounds being lost in the mix.

but i'm a little stuck as to where to cut and boost frequencies of these gritty sounds.

does anyone know generally ( not specifically) what frequencies gritty bass sounds should sit in??

cheers !!

your best bet is to cut the frequencies where your drums sit - get an eq and turn the gain up to max and q down so it's quite small - scan through teh frequencies until you find the main frequency in each drum and then make a cut in your bass at this frequency - this will allow them to sit properly together

If you have pads and fx going on as well try panning them this will also help clear up the mix

[MARCHMELLOW]

Without quoting numbers, I'd say just above your sub.

Like sometimes I'll make my sub bass for the low end weight, then I will duplicate it and run the other copy through distortion and high pass it.

You can also then send a little of the high passed distorted channel into some reverb for a some extra darkness.

ok, so thats all in Mono right? does anyone work with their gritty sounds in Stereo? cause i really like the sound of a big gritty sound spread over left and right....just a thought...or is that why i can't seem to get the sound to sit right in the mix?

[daft cunt]

Without quoting numbers, I'd say just above your sub.

Like sometimes I'll make my sub bass for the low end weight, then I will duplicate it and run the other copy through distortion and high pass it.

You can also then send a little of the high passed distorted channel into some reverb for a some extra darkness.

ok, so thats all in Mono right? does anyone work with their gritty sounds in Stereo? cause i really like the sound of a big gritty sound spread over left and right....just a thought...or is that why i can't seem to get the sound to sit right in the mix?

As you probably already know the mono low-end thing only matters if you plan to get your dubs on wax. Everything else can be stereo from the bottom up.
Anyway, I guess you can fake a stereo effect on the low-end by layering an hi-passed stereo version of your bass as theonelikepaul suggests.

[forensix (mcr)]

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[drewdrops]

your best bet is to cut the frequencies where your drums sit - get an eq and turn the gain up to max and q down so it's quite small - scan through teh frequencies until you find the main frequency in each drum and then make a cut in your bass at this frequency - this will allow them to sit properly together

If you have pads and fx going on as well try panning them this will also help clear up the mix[/quote]

that is a lil beaut of advice! eqing out the kick is something ive done but your snare hats n everything else, cant beleieve i havent thought about this before

[MARCHMELLOW]

see thats it i have 2 main issues

* its hard not to get things to peak and redline, even when turning each track down...

* snares get lost in the mix



i open up the spectrum analyzer on the gritty sounds, cause i can tell they are causing the problem, and it seems as though theres alot of frequencies being eaten up by these sounds, i will try and cut them, but is that jeapordising the overall grit sound too much?

hmmmm

anyways cheers for the help so far, i will do the EQ trick tonight

[forensix (mcr)]

don't make massive cuts in them - just find the punch of your snare and cut a little there and compress your grit

[clubroot]

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[MARCHMELLOW]

This tread could help:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

thats perfect!