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Post by tempest » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:25 pm

LOL

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Post by badger » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:23 pm

9 out of 10 people agree that parsons the best at statistics

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Post by ytdub » Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:34 pm

i want to go to england

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Post by misk » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:36 pm

Parson wrote:and if you would finish watching the derrick jensen video you would understand my perspective 100% more

the last sustainable economy was the stone age
finished that, btw. the only environmentalist that actually makes sense. may be a little extreme, but he's got a lot of valid points.

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Post by parson » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:42 pm

basically corporations should not be allowed to exist

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Post by ytdub » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:46 pm

Parson wrote:basically corporations should not be allowed to exist
agreed

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Post by wang » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:51 pm

ytdub wrote:i want to go to england
England is turning into the 51st State. Sad, but true.

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Post by rickyricardo » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:30 pm

In respect to whether "more" is really better I'd recommend the book "The Paradox of Choice" by Barry Schwartz. It's not so much about the morality of excessive consumption as it is about it's psychological effects. Basically, how we choose and how we feel about our choices.

Long story short, we are generally happier w/ our selections when our options are limited but not *too* limited. In fact, our returns on happiness diminish pretty sharply when we are faced w/ too much choice, and for certain types of people who place high emphasis on making the "right" choice in all things, this is tantamount to psychological torture.

anyway, just thought i'd throw that out there...it's a good read.
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Post by rickyricardo » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:41 am

What an awfully short "manifesto"...in fact, I'm not sure you can even call it such. Where's the sharp incisive (yet impatient) analysis of the prevailing orthodoxy? Where's theblueprint for the better tommorrow?.

Dammit...this guy didn't even leave himself enough room to work up a good rant :D
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Post by parson » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:44 am

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Post by masstronaut » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:50 am

RickyRicardo wrote:In respect to whether "more" is really better I'd recommend the book "The Paradox of Choice" by Barry Schwartz. It's not so much about the morality of excessive consumption as it is about it's psychological effects. Basically, how we choose and how we feel about our choices.
For the too lazy to read crew, definitely worth a watch I would say: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3950043200

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Post by shonky » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:18 am

Now we agree on something :wink:
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Post by metalboxproducts » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:20 am

Parson wrote:Is this the American Dream?





Percentage of Americans earning over $30,000 a year who said they would give up a day's pay each week for a day of free time: 70%

Percentage of Americans earning less than $20,000 a year who said they would make the same pay-for-free-time trade: 48%

Percentage of workers willing to forego raises and promotions to devote more time to their families: 34%
say quite a lot about aspirational socioty that people would more than likly give up a days garenteed pay then give up the possability/dream of a pay rise. :lol:
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Post by metalboxproducts » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:32 am

Shonky wrote:
Now we agree on something :wink:
well yes, that's what corperation should do, but, unfortunatly it's not in thier dna to do things like give their profits away. dur :roll:
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Post by badger » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:08 pm

yeah thats ace. would like to think id be able to do the same thing in his situation but i doubt i could to be honest

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Post by shonky » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:30 pm

badger wrote:yeah thats ace. would like to think id be able to do the same thing in his situation but i doubt i could to be honest
Hmm..charity or big pimping lifestyle. Oxfam or crack'n'ho''s. Decisions, decisions.

I like reading about philanthropy but after a lifetime of brokeness, I think the latter. I'd probably run the business into the ground just for good measure and to release my inner-cuntyness.

It won't make me happy of course, you should all pity me if that happens. Or if you really hate me, just start sending me some dollars over paypal and watch my will to live dissipate as I drown in moolah. It's a harsh punishment, but I shall accept my fate graciously :D
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Post by forensix (mcr) » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:31 pm

Shonky wrote:
badger wrote:yeah thats ace. would like to think id be able to do the same thing in his situation but i doubt i could to be honest
Hmm..charity or big pimping lifestyle. Oxfam or crack'n'ho''s. Decisions, decisions.

I like reading about philanthropy but after a lifetime of brokeness, I think the latter. I'd probably run the business into the ground just for good measure and to release my inner-cuntyness.

It won't make me happy of course, you should all pity me if that happens. Or if you really hate me, just start sending me some dollars over paypal and watch my will to live dissipate as I drown in moolah. It's a harsh punishment, but I shall accept my fate graciously :D
go stab yourself in the eye with a carving knife

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Post by shonky » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:59 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:
Shonky wrote:
badger wrote:yeah thats ace. would like to think id be able to do the same thing in his situation but i doubt i could to be honest
Hmm..charity or big pimping lifestyle. Oxfam or crack'n'ho''s. Decisions, decisions.

I like reading about philanthropy but after a lifetime of brokeness, I think the latter. I'd probably run the business into the ground just for good measure and to release my inner-cuntyness.

It won't make me happy of course, you should all pity me if that happens. Or if you really hate me, just start sending me some dollars over paypal and watch my will to live dissipate as I drown in moolah. It's a harsh punishment, but I shall accept my fate graciously :D
go stab yourself in the eye with a carving knife
That'll be ten grand. How is life in wookie land btw?
Hmm....

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