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Massive Sync Death

Post by meckler » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:19 pm

How do you/is it possible to automate sync'd LFO rates in Massive? I just can't seem to crack it.

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Post by meckler » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:27 pm

Forgot to add I'm new here so, hello.

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Post by tempest » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:30 pm

G'day matey welcome... As far as i know you can't do it.. we've discussed it here before i think...


The way i'd approach it maybe is to run 3 or 4 instances of massive with each set at 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/12 etc whatever...

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Post by Sub Shifter » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:31 pm

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Post by meckler » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:36 pm

Ack, 4 instances of Massive? My PC dislikes running even one. If it's the only way I'll give it a go though. I already hate the freeze function...

Using Cubase SX.

Seems like a bit of a glaring omission from the plugin... even Reason can do it.

grrr...

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Post by masstronaut » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:43 pm

I haven't used Massive but you could try making lots of similar patches - just change the LFO rate and use program change messages to switch between them?
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Post by tempest » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:55 pm

meckler wrote:Ack, 4 instances of Massive? My PC dislikes running even one. If it's the only way I'll give it a go though. I already hate the freeze function...

Using Cubase SX.

Seems like a bit of a glaring omission from the plugin... even Reason can do it.

grrr...
heh, need some more RAM and a dual core mate :wink:

Yeah, i've read here somewhere that they are including it in a new version or something.. have to go suss it out on the native instruments site..

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Post by meckler » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:23 am

masstronaut wrote:I haven't used Massive but you could try making lots of similar patches - just change the LFO rate and use program change messages to switch between them?
Just for the record, I don't think this is possible - all the programs int the list say [disabled]. The synth does have two filters and three LFOs though, so you can engineer two different sync rates. wobbble wobbble and wble wble wble wble for instance.

thanks anyway guys.

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Post by press » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:32 am

one way would be to resample massive with the filter frequency all the way up and no lfo so you get the full sound then load that in an automatable sampler and do the lfo/filtering in there.
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Post by masstronaut » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:45 am

meckler wrote:
masstronaut wrote:I haven't used Massive but you could try making lots of similar patches - just change the LFO rate and use program change messages to switch between them?
Just for the record, I don't think this is possible - all the programs int the list say [disabled]. The synth does have two filters and three LFOs though, so you can engineer two different sync rates. wobbble wobbble and wble wble wble wble for instance.

thanks anyway guys.

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Really, you can't change patches? OK. - I think Press's method above would work well anyway.
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Post by whineo » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:59 am

Press wrote:one way would be to resample massive with the filter frequency all the way up and no lfo so you get the full sound then load that in an automatable sampler and do the lfo/filtering in there.
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4 instances of Massive at once is a silly idea even if you are freezing them.

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Post by masstronaut » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:12 am

4 instances of Massive at once is a silly idea even if you are freezing them.
And I wonder why people go on about having to get quad core cpus with 4 gigs of RAM. :roll:

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Post by auan » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:04 am

Use the performer, not the LFO. It's already synced and you can do clever things by using more than one performer source and/or the performance x-fade slider.
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Post by thesynthesist » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:39 pm

Auan wrote:Use the performer, not the LFO. It's already synced and you can do clever things by using more than one performer source and/or the performance x-fade slider.
We're working on getting Native to add the automated synced LFO feature, but in the meantime, there are a ton of ways around it.

The performer is the most wide open, but then with the routing you can really go buck wild. You just have to be creative.

3-4 instances of massive is absurd, unless you have more ram than is reasonably affordable.

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Post by tempest » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:48 pm

Can I just ask why 3-4 instances of Massive is absurd?

I mean, my PC isn't a beast, but it handles this alright....

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