Drum n Bass production

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:08 am

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jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:17 am

damn trauma that first tune you have on your felon minimix is nasty as fuck

slva · Post by **slva** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:13 pm

cracktactics wrote:do those people who used to/still produce dnb use pre-made breaks or do you make your own??!

The Amen break is a staple of D n B, but it's a lot deeper than a classic sample!
Drum n Bass is similar to Dubstep in many ways, they are related. 'Tempo' & 'Groove' are both important factors, over time they have changed in DnB as the music's progressed. It's useful to research where a style originates from, what it's 'ancestors' are. Back when it was called 'Jungle' you'd find a lot of producers were old B-Boys and Hip Hop heads. Two examples are Krust & Sappo. Sappo's early productions were all done on the Akai S950 but 'played in' (Ding Dong Bass for example) Krust / Full Cycle crew tend to sample from live recorded drums cut up. So like Dubstep there are many ways to 'approach it'. However (sharp intake of breath)... Like all music it's about 'the vibe'. No one can teach you, because it has to do with social / economic / cultural factors. The sort you will only 'learn' from the school of hard knocks. Old copies of "Atmosphere" (if you can find them?) maybe on their website?, I don't know, used to feature some very informative producer interviews as have "Knowledge" magazine.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:17 pm

lotsa old jungle was made on old samplers and using break samples that were chopped up along with synths and alot of hardware.
now with software sequencers and trackers with vst and vsti support things have gotten alot more technical do to availabilty via torrents instead of being limited by $
i mean you cant dl an akai or emu sampler or fx unit where as you can with plugins and soft...

sonictrauma · Post by **sonictrauma** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:40 pm

Jolly Wailer wrote:damn trauma that first tune you have on your felon minimix is nasty as fuck

cheers dude

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:25 pm

in my head, dubstep is about less and less and less. getting the soul of a tune with the barest of elements.

d&b isn't necesarrily the opposite-- though it def. can be-- but there's MORE in d&b. more layers, more modulating sounds. it's all about the layers of percussion, a nice bassline that sonically changes, and whatever the fuck else you want to put in there.

i know i've seen some vids of commix and noisia working as well-- youtube!

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:53 pm

venetian snares renoise vid of vache for some real inspiration

nekkroteukh · Post by **nekkroteukh** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:13 pm

TeReKeTe wrote:in my head, dubstep is about less and less and less. getting the soul of a tune with the barest of elements.

d&b isn't necesarrily the opposite-- though it def. can be-- but there's MORE in d&b. more layers, more modulating sounds. it's all about the layers of percussion, a nice bassline that sonically changes, and whatever the fuck else you want to put in there.

i know i've seen some vids of commix and noisia working as well-- youtube!

I don't know about that. I find that DJ Krust - Warhead is one of the greatest dnb tunes out there, but it's as simple as it get. Same drum sample throughout, not much layering, one fucking evil bassline.

addict · Post by **addict** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:22 pm

i use to make a bit of dnb before dubstep and that's sort of same thing i did. get a phat DOA pack wiv loads of amens and what not and slice them/chop them up then just add more n more on top. the hardest part for me was getting good 'roffels' or whatever there called to give it some beef.

Chunkie wrote:i messed about with a remix for nu:tone's spread love tune a while ago
he was in reason standalone and has loads of dr rex players up

basically, he modifies/re-arranges classic loops (amen, apache etc), layers them up and then adds a sparse simple break of his own on top

every d'n'b producer i know uses the old breaks - either as an accompaniment under their own drums, or as the focus, supplemented with their own stuff

auan · Post by **auan** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:48 pm

nekkroteukh wrote:
TeReKeTe wrote:in my head, dubstep is about less and less and less. getting the soul of a tune with the barest of elements.

d&b isn't necesarrily the opposite-- though it def. can be-- but there's MORE in d&b. more layers, more modulating sounds. it's all about the layers of percussion, a nice bassline that sonically changes, and whatever the fuck else you want to put in there.

i know i've seen some vids of commix and noisia working as well-- youtube!
I don't know about that. I find that DJ Krust - Warhead is one of the greatest dnb tunes out there, but it's as simple as it get. Same drum sample throughout, not much layering, one fucking evil bassline.

There's fuckloads of layering going on man. Its simplicity is a facade.

auan · Post by **auan** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:50 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:yea board is good for drunk posting and random shit (damn where is the teeth smilie)

We need

as well.

Mods plz.

decklyn · Post by **decklyn** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:59 am

ransom said it - layering

nubian minds · Post by **nubian minds** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:26 pm

nekkroteukh wrote: I find that DJ Krust - Warhead is one of the greatest dnb tunes out there, but it's as simple as it get. Same drum sample throughout, not much layering, one fucking evil bassline.

totally agree.

Same goes for Shy FX's 'Bambataa'

sometimes keeping it simple with very strong elements can work exceptionally well.

djake · Post by **djake** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:10 pm

nekkroteukh wrote:I don't know about that. I find that DJ Krust - Warhead is one of the greatest dnb tunes out there, but it's as simple as it get. Same drum sample throughout, not much layering, one fucking evil bassline.

the remix is better!!!! than the original imo

not tc's remix haha tht was shoking

auan · Post by **auan** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:01 pm

djake wrote:
nekkroteukh wrote:I don't know about that. I find that DJ Krust - Warhead is one of the greatest dnb tunes out there, but it's as simple as it get. Same drum sample throughout, not much layering, one fucking evil bassline.
the remix is better!!!! than the original imo

not tc's remix haha tht was shoking

Heard Krust's Soul in Motion? One of my all time faves.

http://ie.7digital.com/artists/krust/so ... g-nowhere/

tremourz · Post by **tremourz** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:20 pm

One must mention Photek if you're into that style of DNB.

Sub Shifter · Post by **Sub Shifter** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:12 am

Auan wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:yea board is good for drunk posting and random shit (damn where is the teeth smilie)

We need as well.

Mods plz.

But how do you get that pendulem snare??

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