too many new labels. dec 2007 edition.

lukki · Post by **lukki** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:13 pm

Bob Crunkhouse wrote: i think people should just call a spade a spade

HAHAHA, I JUST used that term on another forum after posting my last one...

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!! haha

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:29 pm

pete bubonic wrote:'Dubstep' has slowly becoming quite angry and too dancefloor orientated.

I'd say true on the first and not enough on the second though (but then I am a cantankerous bastard at the best of times). Love the DMZ stuff, but I'm glad Mala started putting more of a house influence into his tunes. Reminds me of seeing a couple of the bigger dj's do more minimal sets and seeing people just standing there and thinking maybe it would have been better to put some sofas out for them.

I'd like to see more tunes like Reso's Identity come out, nice quirky sounds, interesting textures and very dancefloor friendly. Not really much into the art school end, did that during my indie years (long time ago)

misk · Post by **misk** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:33 pm

pete bubonic wrote: When was Dubstep not like every other genre? Every dance music on the face of the planet goes through the experimental underground phase and then onto the mainstream commercial phase and once the hype settles things begin to return to normal. That's how the world works. Dubstep does not need rose tinted glasses.

yeah, i agree, spot on indeed. i have this feeling, that if the now global dubstep "community" retreated from the world's stage for a while and focused on their local scenes, we would have so many different sounds that grew up independant of any outside influence. this, i think, is what's killing music.

Maybe i'll focus on the local for a bit...

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:37 pm

You ain't from round here step

Get it going on Misky

mudda · Post by **mudda** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:41 pm

Shonky wrote:
Love the DMZ stuff, but I'm glad Mala started putting more of a house influence into his tunes.

When Mala played at the last Exodus it shocked me how much house there is in his sound - and in fact how much there's always been.

Returning to the point: producers taking personal influences from outside the Dubstep sphere and making music more often than not results in great tunes. I think the releases that Seckle is lamenting are those that take Dubstep is their major influence.

If people want to recycle a sound they like and release it, even if it stagnates the music's wider progression, then who's to object. The tunes that get played in ten years time will be those that make people smile. Look at the current repress of Metalheadz 12"s. They're still quality, they still sound fresh.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:45 pm

Mudda wrote:Returning to the point: producers taking personal influences from outside the Dubstep sphere and making music more often than not results in great tunes. I think the releases that Seckle is lamenting are those that take Dubstep is their major influence.

Yep, that's the one. All the interesting producers do that, and that's how it started let's face it. Looking forward to the music that comes from the disillusioned dubsteppers that go off and do their own thing in the next year.

planas · Post by **planas** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:45 pm

I think the releases that Seckle is lamenting are those that take Dubstep is their major influence.

this

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:43 pm

yeah, that, and this too:

Misk wrote: i have this feeling, that if the now global dubstep "community" retreated from the world's stage for a while and focused on their local scenes, we would have so many different sounds that grew up independant of any outside influence. this, i think, is what's killing music.

Maybe i'll focus on the local for a bit...

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:43 pm

damn, double posting all over today. wak ISP. sorry

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:48 pm

seckle wrote:
when i say it's in the toilet, i mean that in the best way bro.

i.e. you can take a picture of it and disgust girls/impress your mates with the size of it

Personally I don't care if people are putting out shit music so long as DJs aren't giving it the time of day

Which they are... usually because the 'DJ' has MADE the waste tune

Don't give this stuff oxygen, give it AIR

See what I did there? Big things for 2008

misk · Post by **misk** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:07 pm

owning a digital record label is the new music producer. Im sure propellerhead is going to come out with label-managing software in 2008.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:10 pm

Mudda wrote:
I think that ultimately you can't nurse a genre through it's life.

you summed up in one sentence what i have been trying to say for a while.

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:58 am

i don't see how its a recent phenomenon

it took me a while to get into dubstep because it took me a while to find the tunes i was feelin. never have been fond of most stuff that makes it out personally. and i don't see that as a problem either. different strokes, etc.

daggus · Post by **daggus** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:02 am

Parson wrote: different strokes, etc.

thesis · Post by **thesis** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:17 am

seckle wrote:this is plea # 251 from me in regards to the lack of quality control re-surfacing in a big way in the last 6 months or so. far too many labels out at the moment, with really really poor first releases.

I have definitely heard tunes where I was surprised it had made it all the way to vinyl. I do think personal taste is a factor. But even if its not my thing, I can still appreciate/enjoy just about any type of music, if its well written, has good production values, originality etc.

Respect for getting out there and trying, but yeah... sometimes these guys should concentrate on the quality of the product first, then think about releases once they have a following. Not the other way around.

tacospheros · Post by **tacospheros** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:40 pm

i dunno man fuck that. i agree shit music is shit , but cmon. this topic sounds like some eugenics shit like " people should stop having kids cuz they're all coming out ugly" type business

if i scraped together my hard earned money and busted my ass and did all the work myself to release me and my friends tune , who the fuck is anyone to tell me i shouldnt put it out cuz it sucks ? i would tell them to fuck right the fuck off

once again , i agree that shit music is shit, but who are you to tell anyone they're music is shit ?? and that they dont deserve to release it if they can?

tacospheros · Post by **tacospheros** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:42 pm

i cant even finish this thread without responding

[quote author="decibella"]i think that bodyrock was probably the last 'exiting' new tune that really pushed new boundaries.... [/quote]

you guys just stopped looking hard enough . theres more going on than dubstep , no offense

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