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Mixing and eq'in dubstep

Post by fuzz » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:07 pm

Ez all
Ive been mixing for about 2.5 years now, used to mix dnb and a bit of electro house, now the dub bug has hit me haha, but my problem is, when i mix to vinyl, if ones dropped, the basses dont clash but when 2 drop, no matter if there low eq are the same volume or not, they clash and sound shite
how do you stop this?

help would be wikid, cheers

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Post by badga tek » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:09 pm

Dunno about other people but I always avoid having two basslines playing at the same time. If one's 'on', then I have the other low EQ knob set to the minimum

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Post by Lurka » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:35 am

Badga Tek wrote: If one's 'on', then I have the other low EQ knob set to the minimum
pretty much have to do this but in a lot of tunes u can still hear the other basslines mid frequencies so dont need to have both low eqs ramped in order to hear them both necesarily! :D

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Post by pdomino » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:40 am

Lower the bass eq on one or the other, SIMPLE :!:

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Post by boomnoise » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:47 am

don't cross the basslines

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Post by thomas e. griffin » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:02 am

Have a look at getting a mixer with more extreme eqs. I've got a stanton Smx 501 and it has 100% eq kills. ie. when you turn the bass to the mimimum position then the corresponding frequency band is off (not quieter). I reckon it's a good mixer to mix dubstep on but I suppose it's whatever you've learnt with.

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Post by ts (yesyesiow) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:06 pm

depends what the two basslines are really. sometimes a really pure sine waved sub (tune 1 in this example) can be turned down but not completely when track 2 drops. provided the actual sounds and patterns of the basslines dont clash it can give extra weight to a mix and sound double bad................

But be warned, this depends on the system that your playing on and how well you know it, its a potential cone blower!
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Post by compound one » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:16 pm

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Post by boomnoise » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:18 pm

of course.

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Post by contraband » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:27 pm

Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.

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Post by typo » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:47 pm

contraband wrote:You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.
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Post by ts (yesyesiow) » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:45 pm

contraband wrote:Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.
Just


Watch


The Redlines


Thats


What


They


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For
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Post by powerpill » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:15 pm

dont rely on the lights too much, your ears are your friends

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Post by contraband » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:37 pm

TS (yesyesIOW) wrote:
contraband wrote:Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.
Just


Watch


The Redlines


Thats


What


They


Are


For
You're not going to hear any definition in the bass though, just a wall of bass, red line or not.

Sounds gash imo.

That's the reason top DJ's are top DJ's - they know how to EQ a track. They cut the bass out when 2 tracks are running. Watch anyone from Andy C to A Skills

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Post by kidlogic » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:25 pm

contraband wrote:
TS (yesyesIOW) wrote:
contraband wrote:Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.
Just


Watch


The Redlines


Thats


What


They


Are


For
You're not going to hear any definition in the bass though, just a wall of bass, red line or not.

Sounds gash imo.

That's the reason top DJ's are top DJ's - they know how to EQ a track. They cut the bass out when 2 tracks are running. Watch anyone from Andy C to A Skills
Dude, are you kidding? Andy C double drops all the time. As do way too many other dnb djs. It can work, if your basses are in tune and the melodies dont clash too much, you just need to know your tunes.

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Post by Horza » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:44 pm

Yeah double dropping tunes should be kept to a minimum but if done at the right time with the right 2 tunes it can be an absolutely astounding experience! Saw Andy C at heaven last year and his doubledroppin skills are amazing!

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Post by contraband » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:21 pm

Obviously I know he dbl drops that's why I used him as an example, I've been lucky enough to see him DJ up close in the club I play at a few times - and he cuts ALL the bass out of one of the tunes when he's double dropping.


You should have the bass cut in half from the channel that you're bringing in even if it hasn't dropped yet, because 2 full EQ'd kicks will sound shitty as well

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Post by le_hardcore_chiefus » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:25 am

its all practice i supppose, i`m liking finding this out...gna be even better when i get my rane...fuck yerr!

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Post by saba » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:43 am

Its all about practice & more practice, trying tunes that work well with each other & more practice. Ideally you should be practicing out loud & it doesn't help when you live in an apartment & you have neighbours complaining about noise levels. :lol:
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