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This Luciano mix is the shit, hopefully this isn't a repost, can't be bothered re-reading this whole thread!
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Im pretty surprised that people here havent made the distinction between minimal (dubby) techno and the other new 'minimal techno' which we disparagingly call MNML.Minimal (dubby)techno for me = basic channel, maurizio, substance+vainquer, deepchord, rod model, echospace, monolake, Octex, Gas, Yagya + anything on the chain reaction label. Eternal stuff. All dubstep heads take note esp burial fans. Alot of people are forgetting that Basic Channel(the absolute masters of dubby techno) stopped making techno in the mid ninties and have been making some amazing dub reggae as Rhythm & Sound ever since. Hell even Burial was asked if he was Basic Channel in one of his first interviews.
what people call minimal/MNML these days is glitchy NI * Abelton crap _> pat pot etc etc. I dont rate it. And i'm suprised so many people are linking to it on this a dubstep forum!
Other good minimal techno (not dubby now) would be the stuff on Sahko records & anything by Robert Hood. I'm a massive fan of the UR & Detroit techno too. Theres a bit of resurgence happening atm. Exciting times.
Here is something extremly special for you. Its 2 1/2 hours long. But its an amazing journey into electronic dub/dubby techno with some dubstep. No boombastic shit thank god.
http://www.filter27.com/download/Filter ... 27.com.mp3
01. Kode 9 & Space Ape - Signe Of Dub
02. Pole - Rondell Zwei
03. Vainqueur - Elevation Version 1
04. Rhythm & Sound - Carrier
05. Pole - Karussell
06. Murcof - Camino
07. Alva Noto & Ryuichi Sakamoto - Noon
08. Biosphere & HIA - Corona
09. Steve Reich - Pulses
10. Random Logic - RL SAZU99PT2
11. Spyweirdos - Innsbruck (Traject Remix)
12. Laibach - Smrt Za Smrt (Octex Remix)
13. Octex - Broken
14. Blamstrain - Nyt Revisted
15. Biosphere - Birds Fly By Flapping Their Wings
16. Porter Ricks - Nautical Zone
17. Plastikman - Locomotion
18. AM-PM - The End (1)
19. Pan Sonic - A-Kemia
20. Random Logic - RL AP4 JP6
21. Porter Ricks - Port Gentil
22. Schinichi Atobe - Ship-Scope
23. Vladislav Delay - The Fourth Quarter
24. Pellarin - Cotton Ball
25. Paul St. Hilaire - Humble
26. Gys - Help Softly
27. Substance & Vainqueur - Immersion
28. Silent Servant - Death To The Traveler
29. Vladislav Delay - Solid As a Rock
30. Yagya - As It Is
31. Substance & Vainqueur - Surface
32. Brandon Moeller - Merry Go Round
33. VA - Erode
34. Vainqueur - Elevation II (Original)
35. Blamstrain - The Thing You Hate Me For Is Also A Part Of The Rest Of Me You Love
36. Blamstrain - Frame Math
37. Beat Pharmacy Feat. Paul St Hilaire - Hot Spot Splash
38. Maurizio - M6
39. Rhythm & Sound - See Mi Version (Basic Reshape)
40. Mono Junk - Channel B
41. Gys - Beep
42. Radiq - The Grass Roots (Radiqs Babylon Dub Mix)
43. P.O.S. - Work In Progress
44. Pellarin - Intercity
45. Carl Craig - Angel (Caya Dub)
46. Rhythm & Sound - Aerial
47. Ame - Basic Track
48. John Mustang -Intoyapants (Dive Dub Mix)
49. Martin Buttrich - Full Clip
50. Brothomstates vs. Blamstrain - Envelope Diving 2
51. Fluxion - D-teck
52. Porter Ricks - Port of Transition
53. Uusitalo - Nokkonen Päiväunilla
54. Temponauta - Doh
55. Monolake - Plumbicon (Sleeparchive Remix)
56. Pan sonic - Koilinen
57. Kode 9 & Space Ape - Quantum
58. Ray Valioso - Rhodes Island
59. Andy Stott - Blocked
60. AFX - Reunion 2
61. Boxcutter - Gave Dub (12" Remix)
62. Burial - Pirates
63. Artwork - Basic G
64. Geiom - Overnight Biscuits
65. Dynamo - 23 Degrees
66. Littl John - Janet Sinclair (version)
67. Barrington Levy - English Man
68. Rhythm & Sound - No Partial
69. White Mice - Youths Of Today (version)
70. Scientist - Ten Dangerous Matches Part 4
			
			
													what people call minimal/MNML these days is glitchy NI * Abelton crap _> pat pot etc etc. I dont rate it. And i'm suprised so many people are linking to it on this a dubstep forum!
Other good minimal techno (not dubby now) would be the stuff on Sahko records & anything by Robert Hood. I'm a massive fan of the UR & Detroit techno too. Theres a bit of resurgence happening atm. Exciting times.
Here is something extremly special for you. Its 2 1/2 hours long. But its an amazing journey into electronic dub/dubby techno with some dubstep. No boombastic shit thank god.
http://www.filter27.com/download/Filter ... 27.com.mp3
01. Kode 9 & Space Ape - Signe Of Dub
02. Pole - Rondell Zwei
03. Vainqueur - Elevation Version 1
04. Rhythm & Sound - Carrier
05. Pole - Karussell
06. Murcof - Camino
07. Alva Noto & Ryuichi Sakamoto - Noon
08. Biosphere & HIA - Corona
09. Steve Reich - Pulses
10. Random Logic - RL SAZU99PT2
11. Spyweirdos - Innsbruck (Traject Remix)
12. Laibach - Smrt Za Smrt (Octex Remix)
13. Octex - Broken
14. Blamstrain - Nyt Revisted
15. Biosphere - Birds Fly By Flapping Their Wings
16. Porter Ricks - Nautical Zone
17. Plastikman - Locomotion
18. AM-PM - The End (1)
19. Pan Sonic - A-Kemia
20. Random Logic - RL AP4 JP6
21. Porter Ricks - Port Gentil
22. Schinichi Atobe - Ship-Scope
23. Vladislav Delay - The Fourth Quarter
24. Pellarin - Cotton Ball
25. Paul St. Hilaire - Humble
26. Gys - Help Softly
27. Substance & Vainqueur - Immersion
28. Silent Servant - Death To The Traveler
29. Vladislav Delay - Solid As a Rock
30. Yagya - As It Is
31. Substance & Vainqueur - Surface
32. Brandon Moeller - Merry Go Round
33. VA - Erode
34. Vainqueur - Elevation II (Original)
35. Blamstrain - The Thing You Hate Me For Is Also A Part Of The Rest Of Me You Love
36. Blamstrain - Frame Math
37. Beat Pharmacy Feat. Paul St Hilaire - Hot Spot Splash
38. Maurizio - M6
39. Rhythm & Sound - See Mi Version (Basic Reshape)
40. Mono Junk - Channel B
41. Gys - Beep
42. Radiq - The Grass Roots (Radiqs Babylon Dub Mix)
43. P.O.S. - Work In Progress
44. Pellarin - Intercity
45. Carl Craig - Angel (Caya Dub)
46. Rhythm & Sound - Aerial
47. Ame - Basic Track
48. John Mustang -Intoyapants (Dive Dub Mix)
49. Martin Buttrich - Full Clip
50. Brothomstates vs. Blamstrain - Envelope Diving 2
51. Fluxion - D-teck
52. Porter Ricks - Port of Transition
53. Uusitalo - Nokkonen Päiväunilla
54. Temponauta - Doh
55. Monolake - Plumbicon (Sleeparchive Remix)
56. Pan sonic - Koilinen
57. Kode 9 & Space Ape - Quantum
58. Ray Valioso - Rhodes Island
59. Andy Stott - Blocked
60. AFX - Reunion 2
61. Boxcutter - Gave Dub (12" Remix)
62. Burial - Pirates
63. Artwork - Basic G
64. Geiom - Overnight Biscuits
65. Dynamo - 23 Degrees
66. Littl John - Janet Sinclair (version)
67. Barrington Levy - English Man
68. Rhythm & Sound - No Partial
69. White Mice - Youths Of Today (version)
70. Scientist - Ten Dangerous Matches Part 4
					Last edited by clashcame on Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
									
			
									
						Some absolute classic stuff in that mix^^^ Nice one.
Im a real Detroit fan at heart, been hoping for a resurgence for years.
I think people like Andy Stott & Claro Intelecto are carrying the flag.
Ive been through a period of liking some modern minimal stuff but it's starting to bore the hell out of me, especially if you compare it to what has gone before it.
			
			
									
									Im a real Detroit fan at heart, been hoping for a resurgence for years.
I think people like Andy Stott & Claro Intelecto are carrying the flag.
Ive been through a period of liking some modern minimal stuff but it's starting to bore the hell out of me, especially if you compare it to what has gone before it.
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You're making a bit of a false distinction if you think that Vladislav Delay and Ame are good but modern minimal isn't (when they are big in that scene).Clashcame wrote:Im pretty surprised that people here havent made the distinction between minimal (dubby) techno and the other new 'minimal techno' which we disparagingly call MNML.Minimal (dubby)techno for me = basic channel, maurizio, substance+vainquer, deepchord, rod model, echospace, monolake, Octex, Gas, Yagya + anything on the chain reaction label. Eternal stuff. All dubstep heads take note esp burial fans. Alot of people are forgetting that Basic Channel(the absolute masters of dubby techno) stopped making techno in the mid ninties and have been making some amazing dub reggae as Rhythm & Sound ever since. Hell even Burial was asked if he was Basic Channel in one of his first interviews.
what people call minimal/MNML these days is glitchy NI * Abelton crap _> pat pot etc etc. I dont rate it. And i'm suprised so many people are linking to it on this a dubstep forum!
Other good minimal techno (not dubby now) would be the stuff on Sahko records & anything by Robert Hood. I'm a massive fan of the UR & Detroit techno too. Theres a bit of resurgence happening atm. Exciting times.
Here is something extremly special for you. Its 2 1/2 hours long. But its an amazing journey into electronic dub/dubby techno with some dubstep. No boombastic shit thank god.
http://www.filter27.com/download/Filter ... 27.com.mp3
01. Kode 9 & Space Ape - Signe Of Dub
02. Pole - Rondell Zwei
03. Vainqueur - Elevation Version 1
04. Rhythm & Sound - Carrier
05. Pole - Karussell
06. Murcof - Camino
07. Alva Noto & Ryuichi Sakamoto - Noon
08. Biosphere & HIA - Corona
09. Steve Reich - Pulses
10. Random Logic - RL SAZU99PT2
11. Spyweirdos - Innsbruck (Traject Remix)
12. Laibach - Smrt Za Smrt (Octex Remix)
13. Octex - Broken
14. Blamstrain - Nyt Revisted
15. Biosphere - Birds Fly By Flapping Their Wings
16. Porter Ricks - Nautical Zone
17. Plastikman - Locomotion
18. AM-PM - The End (1)
19. Pan Sonic - A-Kemia
20. Random Logic - RL AP4 JP6
21. Porter Ricks - Port Gentil
22. Schinichi Atobe - Ship-Scope
23. Vladislav Delay - The Fourth Quarter
24. Pellarin - Cotton Ball
25. Paul St. Hilaire - Humble
26. Gys - Help Softly
27. Substance & Vainqueur - Immersion
28. Silent Servant - Death To The Traveler
29. Vladislav Delay - Solid As a Rock
30. Yagya - As It Is
31. Substance & Vainqueur - Surface
32. Brandon Moeller - Merry Go Round
33. VA - Erode
34. Vainqueur - Elevation II (Original)
35. Blamstrain - The Thing You Hate Me For Is Also A Part Of The Rest Of Me You Love
36. Blamstrain - Frame Math
37. Beat Pharmacy Feat. Paul St Hilaire - Hot Spot Splash
38. Maurizio - M6
39. Rhythm & Sound - See Mi Version (Basic Reshape)
40. Mono Junk - Channel B
41. Gys - Beep
42. Radiq - The Grass Roots (Radiqs Babylon Dub Mix)
43. P.O.S. - Work In Progress
44. Pellarin - Intercity
45. Carl Craig - Angel (Caya Dub)
46. Rhythm & Sound - Aerial
47. Ame - Basic Track
48. John Mustang -Intoyapants (Dive Dub Mix)
49. Martin Buttrich - Full Clip
50. Brothomstates vs. Blamstrain - Envelope Diving 2
51. Fluxion - D-teck
52. Porter Ricks - Port of Transition
53. Uusitalo - Nokkonen Päiväunilla
54. Temponauta - Doh
55. Monolake - Plumbicon (Sleeparchive Remix)
56. Pan sonic - Koilinen
57. Kode 9 & Space Ape - Quantum
58. Ray Valioso - Rhodes Island
59. Andy Stott - Blocked
60. AFX - Reunion 2
61. Boxcutter - Gave Dub (12" Remix)
62. Burial - Pirates
63. Artwork - Basic G
64. Geiom - Overnight Biscuits
65. Dynamo - 23 Degrees
66. Littl John - Janet Sinclair (version)
67. Barrington Levy - English Man
68. Rhythm & Sound - No Partial
69. White Mice - Youths Of Today (version)
70. Scientist - Ten Dangerous Matches Part 4
I dont know what you are getting at dude.
Relax. I'm just making the distinction between what I personally would call minimal techno (most dubby stuff from the mid ninties) and the 10000000s of samey glitchy boring MNML records which seem to be around today. There are plenty of exceptions to the rule but way too much chaff for me.
			
			
									
									
						Relax. I'm just making the distinction between what I personally would call minimal techno (most dubby stuff from the mid ninties) and the 10000000s of samey glitchy boring MNML records which seem to be around today. There are plenty of exceptions to the rule but way too much chaff for me.
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				4linehaiku
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I don't think minimal techno is the same thing as dub techno at all. Rob Hood and Basic Channel aren't exactly similar.
I like a lot of Dub Techno and that mix looks really good, but I think writing off all modern 'mnml', is pretty stupid, there's loads of good stuff. If you are expecting BC and the like you might be disappointed, but to dismiss it all as 'gitchy ableton crap' is silly.
I would cite Pan Pot as good example of modern minimal though, so I guess we're probably gonna disagree.
Oh and nice one putting Gas on that list, I love his stuff, and no-one seems to know about it.
			
			
									
									
						I like a lot of Dub Techno and that mix looks really good, but I think writing off all modern 'mnml', is pretty stupid, there's loads of good stuff. If you are expecting BC and the like you might be disappointed, but to dismiss it all as 'gitchy ableton crap' is silly.
I would cite Pan Pot as good example of modern minimal though, so I guess we're probably gonna disagree.
Oh and nice one putting Gas on that list, I love his stuff, and no-one seems to know about it.
ah. its not by me its by Octex.Osk wrote:Clashcame - well said. Nail on the head business.
Gonna grab your mix when I'm back at work. Looks superb.
re MNML. Yeah sorry I was being a bit dismissive sorry. I dunno whenever I have been told x & y are great I have always been dissapointed for some reason. I downloaded some pan pot liveset expecting it to be amazing but it just left me empty. Same for any mnml mix i have ever downloaded really.
Anyone want to prove me wrong & give me a link to something decent?
I suppose dubby techno is its own niche,but as far an non-dubby-minimal-techno
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