Ham Art. (New pieces)

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:03 pm

alfie wrote:the image wasn't intended to offend and i'm sure most people realised that.

^thats what the danish newspaper editor said as well. we live in a world of cultural misunderstanding and volatility, where anything can be taken out of context once it goes global. you're playing with fire. you should have a read at this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-P ... ontroversy

we're not going to risk having this site hacked or shut down over your one photoshop. by allowing it, it looks like we condone it.
we have global membership. more than 30% of our membership is from non english speaking countries, where you posting it as a joke, couldn't possibly translate clearly.

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:12 pm

can i ask what the actual complaints said? no names or anything, just quite interested (nosey) to see what people said

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:33 pm

dubluke wrote:can i ask what the actual complaints said? no names or anything, just quite interested (nosey) to see what people said

we never discuss these things. why do you need to know more besides people being offended?

thief · Post by **thief** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:48 pm

Who's reaching this year?

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:04 pm

dubluke wrote:quick PM telling him to try and avoid doing that kind of thing, bringing this shit out in the public has made it much more controversial

we're a public community. now and then; community discussion is critically important for issues as big and volatile as this.

regardless of whether you're for religion or against it, the nature of the internet just doesn't convey all of the dozens of multicultural issues involved in discussing it. people that want to convey their religious fervor should do it on a blog or something similar.

there are times like this when the moderation should be discussed openly so that we don't go down roads like this again and hopefully people find common ground as a community.

it's the same way that you wouldn't run down the road by your house screaming obscenities at your neighborhood. somewhere along that road, someone's going to get in your face about it, and then thereafter you'd think twice about doing the same thing again.

thief · Post by **thief** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:08 pm

Pants are shrinking...

edit: attempted rerail.

alfie · Post by **alfie** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:19 pm

seckle wrote:
alfie wrote:the image wasn't intended to offend and i'm sure most people realised that.
^thats what the danish newspaper editor said as well. we live in a world of cultural misunderstanding and volatility, where anything can be taken out of context once it goes global. you're playing with fire. you should have a read at this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-P ... ontroversy

we're not going to risk having this site hacked or shut down over your one photoshop. by allowing it, it looks like we condone it.
we have global membership. more than 30% of our membership is from non english speaking countries, where you posting it as a joke, couldn't possibly translate clearly.

no problem with deleting it, i understand how it could stir up controversy and as i said i didn't realise the possible connotations when i posted it.

not quite sure why you're comparing it to the posting of purposely inflammatory cartoons in a national newspaper, my photoshop was meant to show a large group of people worshipping a ham and nothing else (i've just noticed how ridiculous that last part is- i think i need to re-evaluate my life)

in summary- perspective required in my opinion

lloydnoise · Post by **lloydnoise** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:56 pm

Im surprised to see none of you ham-ninjas have mentioned Madrid, the capital of ham...
I ate here for the whole week, its called "Museo del Jamon" (World of ham)
and those things on the walls are actually glazed hams. The hams are served as and when they are needed and any ham taken from the wall is replaced by a fresh ham which will sit there till it looks a bit manky and is ready to be served itself. Basically you are never more than 5 feet from a ham while you are eating. It is an amazing place, I firmly suggest it to any ham-fan;

Also when we were there my mate was a veggie, and the waiters didnt know what to do cos there arent many veggies in Spain so they just kept giving him massive plates of chips (which were probably cooked in ham fat anyway).

blizzardmusic · Post by **blizzardmusic** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:02 pm

I just remembered Muslims can't eat ham. Thats why it's so offensive. Right?

mikey_g · Post by **mikey_g** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:20 pm

the dude behind looks like he's more interested in ham than women

thief · Post by **thief** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:21 pm

Awesomely rubbish photochop!

mikey_g · Post by **mikey_g** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:22 pm

thief wrote:Awesomely rubbish photochop!

thats what happens when you use paint

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:23 pm

seckle wrote:
dubluke wrote:quick PM telling him to try and avoid doing that kind of thing, bringing this shit out in the public has made it much more controversial
we're a public community. now and then; community discussion is critically important for issues as big and volatile as this.

regardless of whether you're for religion or against it, the nature of the internet just doesn't convey all of the dozens of multicultural issues involved in discussing it. people that want to convey their religious fervor should do it on a blog or something similar.

there are times like this when the moderation should be discussed openly so that we don't go down roads like this again and hopefully people find common ground as a community.

it's the same way that you wouldn't run down the road by your house screaming obscenities at your neighborhood. somewhere along that road, someone's going to get in your face about it, and then thereafter you'd think twice about doing the same thing again.

yeah fair enough i see what you're saying

also about knowing what was said, its purely cos i'm a nosey tnuc and do love a bit of gossip - i'm not a prick really, come say hello at DMZ and we'll have a beer or some tea (cos they totally have that at dmz

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ajantis_art · Post by **ajantis_art** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:41 pm

mikey g wrote:

the dude behind looks like he's more interested in ham than women

jokes mikey! thats my bird!!! the bolden lass i was tellin yer about earlier!!!

d_three · Post by **d_three** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:03 am

RubiconMan · Post by **RubiconMan** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:05 am

BlizzardMusic wrote:I just remembered Muslims can't eat ham. Thats why it's so offensive. Right?

more of a choice than any biological intolerance....

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:06 am

d.three wrote:

BURNED

is that chewing gum in his ear? i would fucking kill anyone who put chewing gum in my ear, literally

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:06 am

Are-K142 wrote:
BlizzardMusic wrote:I just remembered Muslims can't eat ham. Thats why it's so offensive. Right?
more of a choice than any biological intolerance....

hahahha i was just gonna say that

jah wobble · Post by **jah wobble** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:08 am

looks like mayonnaise in the ear.

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:19 am

jah wobble wrote:looks like mayonnaise in the ear.

he must have woken up and thought "shit i've been spunk eared"

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