Dodgey Samples,

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:52 pm

Ive got a few samples that ive noticed that seem to resonate a really high pitched tone, which gets ten times worse when any reverb or delay is put on them, using reason ive tried to use a vocoder, the equaliser and filters, to eq it out but it wont seem to go away, anyone know what this is and how I could get rid of it with any plugins in cubase maybe?

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:13 pm

As niether a reason or cubase user I cant really offer any advice other than perhaps resampling them. I say this as it might be a problem with the files that only come out whan put through a plugin. Do they sound ok when played normally? Other than that you would have to apply strong eq and then compression and hope you can't hear it in the mix
Tim

deepsix · Post by **deepsix** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:36 pm

can you post the sample up?

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying - you should technically be able to kill out frequencies with filters and eqs with no problems. Just depends what frequency range you're targeting and how broad your cut is.

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:45 pm

It could also be the phanomanom of scychoacoustics. Put crudly, it's when certien frqc's become more apparant on differant keys of the keybourd. It is often, if not always due to the acoustics of the room and can take a lot of time and money to sort out. Usually treatments like wall pannels(peaces of accoustic foam) can help. Have you tried listening to them through head phones? Go to the soundonsound web page, they can help you out. Or it could just br shite samples
Tim
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fubar · Post by **fubar** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:51 pm

ill get em from my comp and put em up to see what you think, I can still hear a ringing through headphones, they are both one shot samples of instruments that have been probably been recorded at home. Allthough the ringing appears to be high pitched it is still audible almost to the point of not hearing the actual sample itself when eq'd/filtered.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:53 pm

Post up an example, probably the quickest way to nail this sucka. It could be a number of things, but we could go through a very long thread without examples, just stick an attachment on your reply.

bleep · Post by **bleep** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:56 pm

If it has a ringing or buzzing to it try getting a parametric EQ, and using a narrow boost on one band - crank it up and sweep it across the frequency spectrum. The spot where the ringing is should pop out. Drop the band back down so the ringing dissapears.

Quite often ringing sounds will need multiple narrow bands set at different frequencies to get rid of it. It depends on how bad it is...

Its easiest to start with good quality samples.

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:08 pm

bleep wrote:If it has a ringing or buzzing to it try getting a parametric EQ, and using a narrow boost on one band - crank it up and sweep it across the frequency spectrum. The spot where the ringing is should pop out. Drop the band back down so the ringing dissapears.

Quite often ringing sounds will need multiple narrow bands set at different frequencies to get rid of it. It depends on how bad it is...

Its easiest to start with good quality samples.

Ah niceone, thanks I will try that. I could defintiely see the thread progressing to your last point but ah well

, Ill post them up later anyways if that doesnt work, they are on a different computer though so I may wait till tomorow. cheers for that.

razer-wire · Post by **razer-wire** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:17 pm

this 1ns a snare

razer-wire · Post by **razer-wire** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:18 pm

this is bass

razer-wire · Post by **razer-wire** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:19 pm

this 1ns a kik i think

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:39 pm

These all sound fine to me, the high end part of the reverb maybe sounds a bit too bright but nothing untoward. Not sure of your setup, but it might be worth recording the sounds with the res onto a cd and listening to it on someone elses pc and see if it still occurs.

It may be that your samples when played in your sampler may be recorded at a different sample rate than what you have set up as the audio sampling rate, had some odd sounds come out when 44.1kHz samples were played when logic was playing at 48, so this may be the problem

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:08 pm

haha confusing randomness, razer wires posts are nothing to do with my samples

but using that eqing method i did manage to improve them slightly but I think im gnoig to just chuk em and find some better ones.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Wed May 17, 2006 7:13 pm

fubar wrote:haha confusing randomness, razer wires posts are nothing to do with my samples but using that eqing method i did manage to improve them slightly but I think im gnoig to just chuk em and find some better ones.

Must pay more attention in future. Doh!!!

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