The Wire Season 5 Discussion (BEWARE - FINALE SPOILERS!)

schamotnik · Post by **schamotnik** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:09 am

if anyone has a link please send me a pm..

electric eliminator · Post by **electric eliminator** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:13 pm

Anyone up in episode 9 yet? Hook a brother up please!

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:21 pm

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Check page 13

ikarai · Post by **ikarai** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:41 pm

nice one corpsey

electric eliminator · Post by **electric eliminator** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:52 pm

jah wobble · Post by **jah wobble** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:26 am

"how my hair look?"

joenicedj · Post by **joenicedj** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:36 am

I watched last night's new episode. I teared up three times during the hour. The show was confusing, disturbing and tragic -- and at the same time, beautiful.

jah wobble wrote:"how my hair look?"

1.
This line from Snoop really showed how heartless she was and how much she valued life. She didn't care about anyone's life or her own. I don't know about you, but if there was a 9mm pointed at my head, i'd be begging for my life...Snoop, she was most concerned about her hair. Said everything you needed to know.

Sad.

2.
Michael dropping off his younger brother at the aunt's house -- heartwrenching. I'm not one for seeing anyone cry, including 7 year olds. Michael having Dukie around for Bug's sake was one thing -- Michael trading Bug for the streets was another. Bug didnt know what was happening.......but you could tell that nothing good would come from the event.

3.
The "breakup" of Dukie and Michael. Mike knew Dukie wasnt built for the corners......and deep down, Dukie knew it too. Dukie gets dropped off at the "A-rab" house and sees one of the workers shooting up.

(Arabs -- or arabbers are merchants that sell fruit on horse drawn carts in Baltimore. Now -- the guy Dukie was working for wasn't an arabber, but his horse came from the same place where the arabber stable is located. Close enough......Remember when i said that "there are certain things on this show that only happen in Baltimore...arabbing is one of them.)

Dukie knows he doesn't want to be on the corners, but he doesn't want drugs either. He turns to Michael -- gone. Dukie is destined to become Bubbles. It's the cycle of drugs in Baltimore.

Sleep was hard to come by last night....

brockolio · Post by **brockolio** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:51 am

"how my hair look, man?"

"you look good, girl"

for some reason, the scene with Michael and Snoop in the SUV has stuck with me more than any other from last nights episode. after such an emotional rollercoaster, found it weird waking up the next morning and being most torn up about the Snoop farewell scene.

the camera angle watching her checking out her braids in the sideview from outside the SUV, her face in the tinted windshield; is just one of those subtle moments that makes this show as amazing as it is.

In the same way that I see Dookie following in Bubbles footsteps to illustrate how nothing ever really changes; I see Michael going the way of Omar, trying to reform the game by keeping to his own code.

how is Kenard going to fit into all this and where Michael goes from here are what I've been trying to wrap my mind around.

simply an amazing hour of television right there.

schamotnik · Post by **schamotnik** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:35 pm

probably one of the best hours of tv ever.. quite emotional and disturbing,

@joe: I think the way snoop dies just refelcts her character... wouldn't have been natural for her to beg for her life.. she knew her time was coming and there was no other way.

I can see Michael becoming the new Omar, Dukie becoming Bubbs etc. Kenard however will be Marlo or one of the major drug players at one time or another.. You can see he's built for it and you could see it already when he started pushing around Nay last year..

The whole thing with the cycle and the younger generation taking the same paths as the older one... the teens' gradual development from last season to this year and how there's just no escaping their destiny... next level television if you ask me

Anyway I'm really looking forward to seeing how the show is gonna end, but if you ask me it's not gonna be pretty...

joenicedj · Post by **joenicedj** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:59 pm

The other scene that stuck in my mind was the Marlo/Chris/Monk scene in jail.

So much raw emotion.

I'm not sure TV gets any better than what i saw last night.

brockolio · Post by **brockolio** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:07 pm

indeed.

seeing Marlo animated like that for the first time in the entire series was real poignant.

liked the dynamic going on between Chris and Monk during that segment.

and for the record:

Bubbles needs an Emmy.

rickyricardo · Post by **rickyricardo** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:07 pm

What a crazy episode....just so much stuff going on all at once. I could kinda guess that snoop was going to get taken out by micheal, based on last weeks preview, but I definitely didn't expect it to be as intense of a scene as it was.

When Micheal pulled out his gun, she didn't even move, duck her head, try to go for her own gun, etc. She knew that her time was up, and accepted it. That last line ("How my hair look?"), also kinda hit me too. Not just b/c it was a rather odd thing to ask just before you get shot, but also b/c it was the only sliver of femininity that we had ever seen from Snoop.

Gus (the newspaper editor), finally has about everything he needs to send Scott Templeton packing....and good fucking riddance. Not only does he have the other Marine backing up the homeless vet's story, but now he figured out that his Daniel's quote at the beginning of the season was horse-shit too. It's going to be a hard fight for Gus, though, since the paper management seems to love munching on the bullshit that he shovels.

(fun fact: The building Gus went to that was supposed to be Walter Reed in Washington DC, is actually Morgan State University. Coincidentally, I was driving home from work the day that this scene was filmed and remember scratching my head when I saw the sign. The Wire does this pretty often. From the previous seasons, alot of the locations that are supposed to be Philly or New York, are actually just different places in Baltimore

)

I'm glad to see that Lester's work has paid off, but now it looks like it will all come crashing down on the foundation of bullshit that McNulty built under it. Now that Daniels knows that the supposed homeless killer's phone was actually Marlo's, it's only going to go even more downhill for Lester and McNulty. Not only that, but Levy is no idiot either, and he's going to use all this to get Marlo off. That's right...a $16 million drug bust, and Marlo could still walk.

Speaking of Levy, the last episode really unveiled how downright crooked that guy really is. Not only does he provide the legal defense for the dealers, but he's basically training them how to run their organizations. LOL, and not only that...but he's selling them out to crooks like Clay Davis, to milk for even more money. In a way, Levy is just another Omar....and if you remember way back to Season 2, Omar called him just as much!

It looks like the wheels really fall off next week. I can't wait to see what happens

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:00 pm

someone set me a working link to episode 9 that link i gave other people has died

datura · Post by **datura** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:02 pm

Corpsey wrote:someone set me a working link to episode 9 that link i gave other people has died

there's a fast torrent for it..

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:02 pm

datura wrote:
Corpsey wrote:someone set me a working link to episode 9 that link i gave other people has died
there's a fast torrent for it..

as an idiot, I don't know what this means

do you just mean a torrent? where

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:03 pm

oh wait I see

cheers

electric eliminator · Post by **electric eliminator** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:28 pm

Yep this was a fine, fine episode, found myself welling up when bubbles made his breakthrough.

Surely the cant throw the book at McNulty? Daniels, Perlman, Rawls et al must know that this means freeing someone who ordered Baltimores biggest body count? I think they will let it slide, as long as Jimmy goes back to the harbour detail!

joenice wrote: (Arabs -- or arabbers are merchants that sell fruit on horse drawn carts in Baltimore. ......Remember when i said that "there are certain things on this show that only happen in Baltimore...arabbing is one of them.)

We call them rag'n bone men in central Scotland.

rickyricardo · Post by **rickyricardo** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:26 pm

electric eliminator wrote: Surely the cant throw the book at McNulty? Daniels, Perlman, Rawls et al must know that this means freeing someone who ordered Baltimores biggest body count? I think they will let it slide, as long as Jimmy goes back to the harbour detail!

I dunno, man. Especially if Rawls were to find out, do you think he'd pass up the chance at royally screwing McNulty? He fucking hates Jimmy, and has turned screwing w/ him into an artform.

For a lot of the people working on the law enforcement side, what goes on in the streets is irrelevant to them doing their job. It's about loyalty to job and rank first, and whatever sense of "justice" comes out of that is secondary.

I think Jimmy is done. He'll find a way to fall on his sword for Lester, but it's just not looking good for him.

jah wobble · Post by **jah wobble** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:30 pm

yeah i was thinking mcnulty will ultimately take the fall w/ lester getting a slap on the wrist and some kinda street justice type thing sorting everything else out (most likely in some kind of messy, complicated way.)

relaks · Post by **relaks** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:59 pm

are there actually 12 episodes in this season and not 10?

Season 5

51. 5- 3 501 6 Jan 08 More With Less
52. 5- 4 502 13 Jan 08 Unconfirmed Reports
53. 5- 5 503 20 Jan 08 Not For Attribution
54. 5- 6 504 27 Jan 08 Transitions
55. 5- 7 505 3 Feb 08 React Quotes
56. 5- 8 506 10 Feb 08 The Dickensian Aspect
57. 5- 9 507 17 Feb 08 Took
58. 5-10 508 24 Feb 08 Clarifications
59. 5-11 509 2 Mar 08 Late Editions
60. 5-12 510 9 Mar 08 -30-

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