Yes.Blackdown wrote:i'm not interested in reviving the cultural movement that was 2step UK garage - the equivalent to that is currently already happening with funky - i'm interested in retaining the 2step/percussive musical element of dubstep, as was prevelant in the days of dark garage/early dubstep, before it gets lost forever.
Martyn, Geiom (Reminissin), Whistla, Sully, Shonx, Narcossist, TRG, Untold for a startSlothrop wrote:Yes.Blackdown wrote:i'm not interested in reviving the cultural movement that was 2step UK garage - the equivalent to that is currently already happening with funky - i'm interested in retaining the 2step/percussive musical element of dubstep, as was prevelant in the days of dark garage/early dubstep, before it gets lost forever.
So on topic, is there anyone (apart from Dusk and yourself) who you'd say are pushing in this direction?
There's loads man, even something as austere as Pangaea's Coiled has a garage rhythm - is just an absurdly reductionist take on it. Shonky, Darkstar, Sully, TRG, Untold, Toasty, Nine, Compound One crew . Theres's plenty more than just those..Slothrop wrote:Yes.Blackdown wrote:i'm not interested in reviving the cultural movement that was 2step UK garage - the equivalent to that is currently already happening with funky - i'm interested in retaining the 2step/percussive musical element of dubstep, as was prevelant in the days of dark garage/early dubstep, before it gets lost forever.
So on topic, is there anyone (apart from Dusk and yourself) who you'd say are pushing in this direction?
ha indeed but as you show, there are plenty more besides...narcossist wrote:There's loads man, even something as austere as Pangaea's Coiled has a garage rhythm - is just an absurdly reductionist take on it. Shonky, Darkstar, Sully, TRG, Untold, Toasty, Nine, Compound One crew . Theres's plenty more than just those..Slothrop wrote:Yes.Blackdown wrote:i'm not interested in reviving the cultural movement that was 2step UK garage - the equivalent to that is currently already happening with funky - i'm interested in retaining the 2step/percussive musical element of dubstep, as was prevelant in the days of dark garage/early dubstep, before it gets lost forever.
So on topic, is there anyone (apart from Dusk and yourself) who you'd say are pushing in this direction?
edit: beat me to it elgato:)
Cool - some I know, some I need to check out.elgato wrote:ha indeed but as you show, there are plenty more besides...narcossist wrote: edit: beat me to it elgato:)
like to add...not only percussion, but the soulfulness is something i find lacking. like somebody put a piece of themselves into the music. more of a vibe, something you can't define w/drum patterns. either there or it's not.Blackdown wrote:i'm interested in retaining the 2step/percussive musical element of dubstep, as was prevelant in the days of dark garage/early dubstep, before it gets lost forever.
I completely agree, but I also think that it's a bit ridiculous to suggest that the middle classes are exempt from living out 'bleak futures', and by definition treating music as a career path...Shonky wrote: Being serious though, I do think that a lot of music that came from folks who's pretty much only way of getting out of a fairly bleak future was by music do have a completely different mindset to those that just have it as one of several options that they can venture into on their career path.
tronman wrote:YESBlackdown wrote:i'm interested in retaining the 2step/percussive musical element of dubstep, as was prevelant in the days of dark garage/early dubstep, before it gets lost forever.
once it gets retained, i'm curious about the new possibilities for percussion, though tbh people like Mala are already rhymically miles ahead (Learn, Bury the Bwoy etc...).
don't forget about the beats!
yes yes yes!Corpsey wrote:It'll come back because people will realise that 2 step beats are live to dance to.
I said this?Shonky wrote: MBP's point about niche is spot on, sometimes it's just fun music and doesn't need to be explained or have essays written about it.
Close The Door available here vvvvvvvvmagma wrote: I must fellate you instantly."?
thats a freat track.stormfield wrote:On a cheeky 2 step-electro tip, ScanOne's Skip is coming out on vinyl in a couple of months, as part of COMBAT017
you can already get the digital release here:
http://www.addictech.com/store/product_ ... fe926afe54
There's another Point B E.P. nearly ready as well.
Close The Door available here vvvvvvvvmagma wrote: I must fellate you instantly."?
haha EVERYONE wants to escape the boredom of "reality" standard. i get wot shonky is saying i agree with him to an extent. but arguably alot of dance music is spawned from black culture - that is going to explain why why alot of bassline / funky house at the moment is coming out of black society and producerselgato wrote:im not entirely clear on what you mean... are you saying that no middle class people aspire to 'vulgarity'? and are you demarcating 'vulgarity' as strictly the product and remit of 'lower' class people?Shonky wrote:Yeah, but the middle class might be aspirational but they won't do it with the joyous vulgarity though.
these two need separating straight away. further, do you think that frustration with humdrum reality and a need to escape is exclusive to poor people? i would also say that people can struggle in many contextsShonky wrote:You can't really aspire to something if you already have it. Music born of struggle and escaping humdrum reality generally has more fire to it than music to match your soft furnishings
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