THE GROWTH OF NEW DUBSTEP MC's.... Essential????

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Tue May 02, 2006 8:09 am

no MCs plz

night deposit · Post by **night deposit** » Sun May 21, 2006 4:10 am

i hadnt gotten around to reading this thread but i decided to after seeing Kode 9 mash up T-dot last night...

i wasnt into the MC thing at all last night, in fact, i almost left early 'cause it was bumming me out so much...seriously,

i dont need somebody telling me the dj's name every 30 seconds or to tell me to 'feel the bass' , 'sounds of the future' , 'were testing the subs out tonight' or shouting out their buddies... it really ruins the vibe for me personally, and its not a personal dig, its just a matter of taste. ive heard recordings of live sets where someone, with a good voice and sensibility, has the gift of taking things to another level, but i think i feel like many who have posted before, it just detracts from the music and is really unecessary i feel.
now, if you are going to get up and toast or sing with a specific track, that might be something, where it really adds to the mix, otherwise i think let the music play..

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Sun May 21, 2006 4:44 am

Shouldn't become as standard as it has in dnb, I don't think. Having said that I love Space Ape and Sgt. Pokes... and I'd like to hear loads of rappers over stuff by skream, loefah etc.

Actually dubstep makes me want to write lyrics again. Used to do it when I was heavily into Hip-Hop, but these are new beats that inspire me.

el sub sta · Post by **el sub sta** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:47 am

Not essential. But can add to the music if done correctly.

alexdc · Post by **alexdc** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:56 am

my humble opinon--vocalists with good lyrics can make any song a thing you cant live without

el sub sta · Post by **el sub sta** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:00 am

alexDC wrote:my humble opinon--vocalists with good lyrics can make any song a thing you cant live without

I 100% agree.

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:08 am

I think there are 2 types of MCs....

1) - the sort who just say the DJ name, big up everyone, again and again.

2) - the sort who treat it like a song, and actually come up with decent lyrics.

The former should be done with moderation IMO.
The latter i'm very open to... let's get some memorable tunes out there.

kion · Post by **kion** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:26 pm

Nothing wrong with a crowd hyper! All about the call and response innit - builds up big vibes.

drbluebeat · Post by **drbluebeat** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:39 pm

^^ I dunno - spose it depends where you come from musically speaking. I really didnt like hearing MC's all that "blah blah blah on the ones and twos" over and over with the exceptions of a few raves i went to of ratpack and were they called "two blacks and a bubble"? they were good but i was largely untouched. Now of course the grime MC's are simply awesome but i am mixed about Kodes q as i love Pokes - warming to CrazyD but still prefer mc free tho couldnt imagine dmz without pokes.

dammnit i'm rambling -expect a monday edit to this

docdoom · Post by **docdoom** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:57 pm

SpaceApe - good lyricist, works perfectly with Kode9 music.

Pokes - prety basic but very very funny and seems like such a warm and nice guy. Totally part of the dmz sound and never says too much. Great.

Crazy D - You can see his garage heritage. IMO sometimes does a little bit too much MCing, could take a back seat for a little longer occasionally. He is also very funny, but he can get slightly samey over two solid hours.

Task - Pretty basic but good. I love it how he tells stories on the Rinse FM show, about the time Youngsta nearlly left all his dubplates in a service station on the motorway etc.

Rouge Star - Saw last night in Leeds for the first time, pretty good. Pretty much dnb pace and pretty good, esp over 'break'step styles.

darkmatter · Post by **darkmatter** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:46 pm

i've always got time for MCs who respect the music, helps hype the crowd and a hyped crowd makes a good rave.

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:35 am

Crazydave wrote:2) - the sort who treat it like a song, and actually come up with decent lyrics.

basically it's what we need... and if possible with something to say and a good voice ;p
It's not easy to be a good MC

david_m · Post by **david_m** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:33 am

I think Mc's fucked hip-hop, then they fucked jungle and now they're about to fuck dubstep

No, seriously, mc's can be really interesting if they just do the work they were supposed to at the beggining, wake the crowd up, make the show a little more visual, come along with music, etc. but it always ends with the same, mc's with more prominence than what they deserve, overshadowing the music, making it marketable for mainstream, totally losing the point of what they were created to, and getting more importance than the music.

Even though, I love Crazy D, he's more a toaster than a Mc, he lets the music flow and respect it, but if the Mc figure continues to grow sure it'll finish being like the drum'n'bass raves with 2 or 3 superstar Mc's shouting, not allowing you to hear and enjoy the music.

Well, I'm saying all this but I've never been at a dubstep night (except for the ones we run here, but I don't think they're very connected to the UK dubstep scene), maybe if I was at one of them my opinion could change a bit...

docdoom · Post by **docdoom** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:44 am

^Some interesting points but i'd have to take issue with the claim that MCs fucked up hiphop. I mean, sure theres problems with superstar ego MCs, the DJ becomes a bit forgotten etc but for many years now hiphop has been an MC led culture.

You want them to 'just do the work they were supposed to at the beggining, wake the crowd up, make the show a little more visual, come along with music' but when was the last time hiphop MCs were really in that role? It must be like c.1980 or so? Im glad hiphop is an MC led culture.

But yeah i agree on dubstep, having two or three MCs rambling over and burying some amazing music would be heartbreaking.

2000f · Post by **2000f** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:59 am

How can I get in contact with Sgt. Pokes?

david_m · Post by **david_m** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:04 am

docdoom wrote:You want them to 'just do the work they were supposed to at the beggining, wake the crowd up, make the show a little more visual, come along with music' but when was the last time hiphop MCs were really in that role? It must be like c.1980 or so? Im glad hiphop is an MC led culture.

You're right mate, that's probably why I only like 80's hip-hop and electro, not the 90's and 00's stuff (with some exceptions of course). That's a question of different tastes I guess

docdoom · Post by **docdoom** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:17 am

David_M wrote:
docdoom wrote:You want them to 'just do the work they were supposed to at the beggining, wake the crowd up, make the show a little more visual, come along with music' but when was the last time hiphop MCs were really in that role? It must be like c.1980 or so? Im glad hiphop is an MC led culture.
You're right mate, that's probably why I only like 80's hip-hop and electro, not the 90's and 00's stuff (with some exceptions of course). That's a question of different tastes I guess

Fair play. I love egyptian lover, mantronix and stuff like that, but im my eyes there are so many gems in the 90s i have to get involved with them as well!

signus · Post by **signus** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:35 am

Dubstep needs its own style of MC, something to help you meditate that compliments the rolling bass.

*grand* · Post by ***grand*** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:36 am

tbh DUBSTEP dont realy need any MC its the type of music that u just wanna vybes too, the hype comes from the sick drops and mixess that the producers/dj drop, its these guys that create all the hype, From the dub step raves i been to the MC there just help keep the vibe going... i dont wanna see the dubstep sceen filled with MC like grime where everybody lives for the MC bars.. like crazy D says its all about dancing, the only thing i suppose to appeal to a wider audience is to put a few vocals on some tunes and appeal to some of the woman out there cos anyone whose been to any raves knows that theres pure man... i think that is the key.....more tunes like skream feat warrior queen, check it as that is a stonking push button tune.....

dubstep+gash+Grand=jolly good time lol

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