new track, with Arab vocals

acetone · Post by **acetone** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:41 am

Here's a 320 of it: http://andreas-krautwald.com/music/Adhan_dub.mp3

It's straight from Reason, so the mix is a bit rough…

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon May 29, 2006 2:47 pm

The tunes good, but the drums need a bit more oomph. The sub good do with a higher bass mixed into it to give it some definition.

acetone · Post by **acetone** » Mon May 29, 2006 3:15 pm

any drums that need fattening in particular, or just more punchy beats in general?

intoccabile · Post by **intoccabile** » Mon May 29, 2006 3:21 pm

I really really like that track !

The drums, imo, are perfect. The hi-hats flow nicely, the bass is heavy, the atmospherics add a lot to the tune... I really dig the haunting vocal too.

The tune keeps changing.... drum pattern switch near the end... nice !

Excellent work

zacharia360bpm · Post by **zacharia360bpm** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:36 pm

I like this track. Its effective and the arab vocal is very nice.
The drums may be a bit weak but I don't think they need to be super punchy all the time. Not with this genre anyways. Is it available for download?

acetone · Post by **acetone** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:38 pm

Thanks a lot.

I'm not trying to build massive bangers, I'm just trying to evoke a bit of dub in dubstep. That's why the bassline is a low, pulsing sub and the drums are fairly spacious and light.

That's the intent anyway. The result may vary, especially as I've got neither the studio nor the experience to really master the track in any way.

Please keep the comments coming, it's good to hear the track through other peoples ears / speakers …

acetone · Post by **acetone** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:42 pm

Hey zacharia,

yes, the link above goes straight to the 320 kbps .mp3 version. By all means download it, burn it, spread it around. If you want .wav or .aiff let me know…

cystik · Post by **cystik** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:21 pm

feelin the vocal, nice tune geeza.

u know where thres anywhere i can hold of arab vocals or samples?

prismatic7 · Post by **prismatic7** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:44 pm

acetone wrote:I'm not trying to build massive bangers, I'm just trying to evoke a bit of dub in dubstep. That's why the bassline is a low, pulsing sub and the drums are fairly spacious and light.

i'm with you on this - there needs to be more variation in dubstep! but i agree a bit with the other posters, too. the percussion in this track needs to sit a bit higher in the mix - particularly when you've got that vocal sitting well out in front. I don't think the bassline needs to be emphasised, coz on a big system that's going to sit very happily (you don't need to choke everyone with sub-bass weight, guys!)

if it were me, i'd give the snare a bit more 'snap' - push up the mids and highs on it, and maybe add a short reverb to it. the hats i'd leave at the same level (personal preference more than anything) and i'd give the kick a boost of less than 1db below 200Hz.

Beyond that, there's some killer ideas in that. There's a fantastic tension to the intro, and the vocal channels a whole bunch of ideas I'm currently playing with (it's nice to know that other people are moving the same way!) Breaking away from the dubstep formula might not endear you to the more bogan elements in the main forum (what the fuck kind of topic was 'What kind of food do dubsteppas eat', fer fucks?) but i'm looking forward to your ideas!

tusk · Post by **tusk** » Tue May 30, 2006 1:44 am

Nice work man

Wicked atmosphere, melodic elements, heady beat structure.
Could you stick it up on Yousendit tho becuz my box defaults to quicktime and it wont let me save it (shite) and I would love to play this out in Van.

Keep it up
Cheers
Tusk

dust shop · Post by **dust shop** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:17 pm

nice proper track!

acetone · Post by **acetone** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:09 pm

Thanks a lot prismatic7 for the feedback, I'm looking forward to hearing what you're working on.

I'll have a go at touching up the snares, give them some SNAP! and beef up the kicks a bit and see how it works out. I'll post the follow up here in this thread.

I've uploaded a .zip for those of you who are having problems downloading the mp3. Get it here:

http://andreas-krautwald.com/music/Adha ... 20.mp3.zip

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:15 pm

really liked everything about this one, only complaint is the kick. reckon all the other drums are spot on - just feels like the kick is sitting about loud and a bit high frequency wise withoutout any reverb or out so it just hangs in mid air. swop it for a lower one and the tracks minted

acetone · Post by **acetone** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:47 pm

I had a go at fixing the track using prismatic7 and narcossists suggestions, and I think it's a definite improvement. I've upped the new version but left the old links above so you can compare the two versions.

Here's version two:

http://andreas-krautwald.com/music/Adhan_Dub_v2.mp3

And here's a zipped one for the download impaired:

http://andreas-krautwald.com/music/Adhan_Dub_v2.mp3.zip

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:03 am

snare sounds better in terms of being crisper and snappier. but it still feels too dry and a bit too simple. perhaps try layering a couple of different ones?

kick seems kinda flabby and weak. and it's too low in the mix still.

with improved drum work, this track would be a lot better

prismatic7 · Post by **prismatic7** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:52 am

yes! you've got much better separation between sub and kick now, acetone. that little bit extra on the snare pops it out of the mix, too, adds to the tension - i really dig the vibe you've got running, that kind of futuristic, spacious thing. Like you said, it's not a banger but definitely a heavyweight tune...

antilynd · Post by **antilynd** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:08 am

I really love the tune, particularly the vocals. The drums still don't sound perfect to me, but yeah, they've improved.

I'd love to know what machine you used for the drums. For some reason, the sound reminds me of the Boss DR-660. My bandmate used to program drums for his doom/metal/hardcore songs with that thing. Sounded hilarious.

cheers

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:35 am

I actually like this. Making tunes like this, I would be aiming more for like a soundtrack, film score, videogame market. This will be on my xbox360, for sure... using it for Call of Duty Multiplayer, if possible.

I kindof like this... not sure I would want to hear it out at a club, but I really don't want you to take that the wrong way... it would just sound great for a videogame or film score... work on those snares and bring a little more snap into them... the bassline is fine... it is subtle, but still out front enough for a good surround system. Love the track.

lol... weird request, but I'd like a 5.1 surround mix of this track for my 360 and my home sound system... would be really badass.

whitebait · Post by **whitebait** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:44 pm

I'd put the odd big phat dubby type reverb on every 16th snare or so just to break it up and use a few more kick drum sounds possibly de tuned or transposed to play a kind of kick melody. I reckon it needs a complementary arabic sounding percussion line as well.
I'm more keen on knowing what's the vocal about ? What are they saying ? Where's it from ?
I'd also put airplane chatter in the background, missile launch noises, explosions and gunfire in there as well, maybe even some kids screaming and women sobbing. Just rip the sounds straight of a vid game or the news

prismatic7 · Post by **prismatic7** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:33 am

whitebait wrote:I'd put the odd big phat dubby type reverb on every 16th snare or so just to break it up and use a few more kick drum sounds possibly de tuned or transposed to play a kind of kick melody. I reckon it needs a complementary arabic sounding percussion line as well.
I'm more keen on knowing what's the vocal about ? What are they saying ? Where's it from ?
I'd also put airplane chatter in the background, missile launch noises, explosions and gunfire in there as well, maybe even some kids screaming and women sobbing. Just rip the sounds straight of a vid game or the news

Totally disagree - that sort of thing is a) overplaying your hand and b) just plain hokey. There's too much of that Arab = Iraq war/militant connection being made in every other medium - why not just let the track stand on it's own without making an obvious and incorrect connection?

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