What makes a dubstep tune BIG?

boyd · Post by **boyd** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:00 pm

I was thinking, what do you lot reckon makes a tune like night or midnight request line, and i guess cockney thug, blow up unlike the rest?

Obviously you can just say they're 'better tunes', but how, and are they actually? I'm pretty sure most people on here wouldn't name these as they're favourite tunes, but maybe that's just because they've been rinsed I dunno.. Anyway, more in terms of the technical production side of things, what do we think?

wagawaga · Post by **wagawaga** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:09 pm

boyd wrote:I was thinking, what do you lot reckon makes a tune like night or midnight request line, and i guess cockney thug, blow up unlike the rest?

Obviously you can just say they're 'better tunes', but how, and are they actually? I'm pretty sure most people on here wouldn't name these as they're favourite tunes, but maybe that's just because they've been rinsed I dunno.. Anyway, more in terms of the technical production side of things, what do we think?

im picturing u with a notepad keenly awaiting the secret answers to popular music

they all evoke a mood/atmosphere which people enjoy being immersed in.

AND DA PH4T BASSZ!!!

__________ · Post by **__________** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:10 pm

great thread.

this has gotta be a pisstake, surely?

boyd · Post by **boyd** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:13 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an idiot, obviously I'm not searching for a difinitive answer to what makes people like music, just a disussion on the production side of things on what elements makes tunes more successful than others! Specific to dubstep. Which is why I put it in the production section

junglist · Post by **junglist** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:34 pm

Well it's these thing (scientifically proven lol)

1)Sub bass

2)High Pitch bass

3)Atmosphere

4)Rhythm

...and wobble!!!! haha

breakbait · Post by **breakbait** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:48 pm

low cut everything 150hz and under, this is the key to a popular tune.

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:06 pm

Hi end sounding processing, im thinking.

Eventide, hi end Reverb ect.

Either they have it, or know somone with a decent studio.
It's all about the hardware IMO

Then again it could all be snythisis skillz

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:10 pm

u nned da wobble base 4 it 2 b big u no

nofin esle gos of in da dance. we dont need no deep tunes cuz mans cant danc 2 dem.

stupid thread - surely how big a tune is is up to personal preference

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:16 pm

Damn, all this time i thought huge toons where determined by
Myspace and Youtube hits...

cursedc · Post by **cursedc** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:32 pm

There, No more. You have no reason to be butt hurt! I took away your fun.

boyd · Post by **boyd** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:33 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:u nned da wobble base 4 it 2 b big u no

nofin esle gos of in da dance. we dont need no deep tunes cuz mans cant danc 2 dem.

stupid thread - surely how big a tune is is up to personal preference

How big a tune is is up to personal preference? That doesn't make much sense.

Being interesting in production, it's just something I do when listening to dubstep songs that have become popular - try and pick apart the different elements and techniques of the tune and learn from it, in terms of the instruments involved and effects on them, etc. Maybe it's just me then, but thanks for the lovely reply anyway

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:38 pm

boyd wrote:
How big a tune is is up to personal preference? That doesn't make much sense.

No, it's up to collective preference. That is, quite a few people quite like it.

There isn't a rule as to what people like/dislike/worship/fucking despise in any genre. I work on the rule of making stuff I enjoy, and if anyone else likes it fair play.

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:45 pm

So if i like the Toon, and so do my freinds.

Its gotta be Huge

You make it sound so easy.

boyd · Post by **boyd** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:46 pm

Wub wrote:
boyd wrote:
How big a tune is is up to personal preference? That doesn't make much sense.

No, it's up to collective preference. That is, quite a few people quite like it.

There isn't a rule as to what people like/dislike/worship/fucking despise in any genre. I work on the rule of making stuff I enjoy, and if anyone else likes it fair play.

Yeah definately, though I think with dubstep there's more of an opportunity because it's a relatively new genre and therefore only a small number of tracks have been proper successful

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:54 pm

I thought in a minimilst genre.

Hi end and orignal sounds, really makes a toon big.

Unless,

Dem Reasonz init. All i need for dem Dubstepz.

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:57 pm

boyd wrote:I was thinking, what do you lot reckon makes a tune like night or midnight request line, and i guess cockney thug, blow up unlike the rest?

Man these tunes suck.

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:04 pm

Jealous, got dem haterz.

Dat dem big boys, thought dem soundz first!

COURT · Post by **COURT** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:16 pm

If we knew the answers to such questions..
I don't believe MUSIC itself would be the powerful escape it can be.

Don't question why...
Skream, Benga & Rusko never questioned why.
They just bought what they had to the scene and made YOU ask why.

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:33 pm

Sorry bru, gonna have to disagree.

We need to question why.
Cause Skream, Benga and Rusko sure as hell ain't talkin.

Experiment

Toon run though hi end sound processing

VS

Toon run through Farts and OJ.

Can a Big Big Toon be produced in both??

Cause anyone can come up with decent hooks...

sounddemon · Post by **sounddemon** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:35 pm

Can't say I know much about production myself, but IMO.
A big tune of any genre is the appropriate assembly of noise to bring the listener in, make them feel immersed in the sound, not just to listen to the sound.

The beauty of it all, everyone has different tastes, with that someone producing has a different bounce then others, sometimes even its not the sounds itself but the flow be it original or tweaked. Although that also brings in the fact certain sounds can appeal to a certain individual.

so I guess my answer to this question would be.

Love. nothing more, nothing less.

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