What really defines dubstep?

[djake]

for me its all about the bass

[polho]

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2 ... ukkaz.html

You should have this bookmarked so you could draw it out like nothing.

Every scene establishes it’s sonic trademarks. Drum & bass has its Amen breaks and Reece stabs, deep house it’s tedious Rhodes pads and Bhangra those sugar sweet riffs. To establish it’s own character, dubstep needs its own identifiers. It has space, it has bass: perhaps twisted melodics have a place.

I think it's __all about__ the melodies. Cartoony, dark, skewed, wot do u call it?

...a shimmering mirage of melodic wonder, just beyond the grasp of most sonic traveller.

[foodstampz]

a daw.. and particularly good soft synths.. would you say you can thank native intruments, access, nordleads, blue's, chameleons and discovery synths for dubstep.. yeah i think so. !@@

lol under than that dubstep is like hiphop Jamaican dub with more bass.

[slothrop]

lol under than that dubstep is like hiphop Jamaican dub with more bass.

Seriously, when I'm king of the world, noone's going to be allowed to go to a dubstep night or listen to a dubstep record until they've listened to The Roots of Dubstep on repeat for a month and written a 5,000 word dissertation on the importance of swung rhythms to dubstep and why El-B is god.

[shonky]

lol under than that dubstep is like hiphop Jamaican dub with more bass.

Seriously, when I'm king of the world, noone's going to be allowed to go to a dubstep night or listen to a dubstep record until they've listened to The Roots of Dubstep on repeat for a month and written a 5,000 word dissertation on the importance of swung rhythms to dubstep and why El-B is god.

Although I love El-b's stuff, as my Steve Gurley knowledge improves he becomes less of an innovator.

[slothrop]

lol under than that dubstep is like hiphop Jamaican dub with more bass.

Seriously, when I'm king of the world, noone's going to be allowed to go to a dubstep night or listen to a dubstep record until they've listened to The Roots of Dubstep on repeat for a month and written a 5,000 word dissertation on the importance of swung rhythms to dubstep and why El-B is god.

Although I love El-b's stuff, as my Steve Gurley knowledge improves he becomes less of an innovator.

Alternative essay topics relating to Steve Gurley, Horsepower Productions and so on will be available on request.

[shonky]

lol under than that dubstep is like hiphop Jamaican dub with more bass.

Seriously, when I'm king of the world, noone's going to be allowed to go to a dubstep night or listen to a dubstep record until they've listened to The Roots of Dubstep on repeat for a month and written a 5,000 word dissertation on the importance of swung rhythms to dubstep and why El-B is god.

Although I love El-b's stuff, as my Steve Gurley knowledge improves he becomes less of an innovator.

Alternative essay topics relating to Steve Gurley, Horsepower Productions and so on will be available on request.

Clubs are emptied by new academic impulse. Shonx's "History of Ug - prehistoric percussionist" seen to have demolished all efforts at establishing innovation - yeah Ed Rush blah blah, Ug was doing that 20,000 years ago with a rock and screaming, dubstep - Ug was on a strictly pulses based diet and combined his flatulence with slow beats and atonal chanting.

[mr_vega]

its fucking deep.

[holik]

I personally feel that most of the people that say music that has that "dubstep sound" really mean halfstep and sub, slightly lurching beat and funkless drums, which to me is the least interesting aspect of the sound.

yeh.
and then you got the bug, who is just makin ruff ragga and suddenly it´s dubstep.

and those drums got mad funk.

[shonky]

I personally feel that most of the people that say music that has that "dubstep sound" really mean halfstep and sub, slightly lurching beat and funkless drums, which to me is the least interesting aspect of the sound.

yeh.
and then you got the bug, who is just makin ruff ragga and suddenly it´s dubstep.

and those drums got mad funk.

Worth checking out King Cannibal's tunes if you're into that ruff ragga styling

http://www.myspace.com/kingcannibal

Bottom 2 in the player are on that tip. Really liking this style at the moment.

[noodles dpr recordings]

I personally feel that most of the people that say music that has that "dubstep sound" really mean halfstep and sub, slightly lurching beat and funkless drums, which to me is the least interesting aspect of the sound.

yeh.
and then you got the bug, who is just makin ruff ragga and suddenly it´s dubstep.

and those drums got mad funk.

Worth checking out King Cannibal's tunes if you're into that ruff ragga styling

http://www.myspace.com/kingcannibal

Bottom 2 in the player are on that tip. Really liking this style at the moment.

bare essential just a good groove... if it sounds good to you (producer wise) then it can work in a club...

[abs]

We all know that every form of electronic music was born from the musical womb of the late 80's, and that every genre has its own sound, but, what still gets me is how is dubstep defined?

Kraftwerk have been around since 1970 mate, hardly the late 80s.

For me there's different kinds of dubstep, there's all that jump-up cliche shit like Benga and Skream, which is like the joke of the scene if you ask me, then there's the stuff like Bass Clef and Ital Tek, which has a bit of character to it.

Then after all that's been swept aside, people like Ebola and Mathhead kill it all, they aren't even in the same league as average dubstep.

I'd say it can be recognised by being boring and embarrasing most of the time, then heavy as fuck occasionaly.

[ozols man]

We all know that every form of electronic music was born from the musical womb of the late 80's, and that every genre has its own sound, but, what still gets me is how is dubstep defined?

Kraftwerk have been around since 1970 mate, hardly the late 80s.

For me there's different kinds of dubstep, there's all that jump-up cliche shit like Benga and Skream, which is like the joke of the scene if you ask me, then there's the stuff like Bass Clef and Ital Tek, which has a bit of character to it.

Then after all that's been swept aside, people like Ebola and Mathhead kill it all, they aren't even in the same league as average dubstep.

I'd say it can be recognised by being boring and embarrasing most of the time, then heavy as fuck occasionaly.

aaah ur a joker how can u call benga a joke. his beats were and ARE fiya..

[m9918868]

For me there's different kinds of dubstep, there's all that jump-up cliche shit like Benga and Skream, which is like the joke of the scene if you ask me

lol. So who's laughing then?

[abs]

For me there's different kinds of dubstep, there's all that jump-up cliche shit like Benga and Skream, which is like the joke of the scene if you ask me

lol. So who's laughing then?

Well, me for a start, I know quite a lot of others who aren't really into that sort of dubstep.

[m9918868]

Well maybe you should learn some history then, go listen to Skream's earlier stuff. His august mix (2005) would be a good start. Or his Big Apple Mix (2004).

[abs]

i'm fully aware of all that, he's done some proper bo tunes, but most of it to me, just sounds quite boring and predictable, the few tracks that I like don't balance out the stuff that I hate.

[psyphon]

We all know that every form of electronic music was born from the musical womb of the late 80's, and that every genre has its own sound, but, what still gets me is how is dubstep defined?

Kraftwerk have been around since 1970 mate, hardly the late 80s.

Maybe I didn't word my original post as I meant it.

What I did mean was that modern electronic music was born from the late 80's as that's when electronic music really started to establish itself. Yes, you had groups like Kraftwerk, etc, but these guys were the early pioneers and the electronic music scene grew out the producers that the pioneers influenced.

Sorted.

[slothrop]

Defining dubstep in precise terms does seem a bit pointless, though - half the point (as far as I'm concerned) is that when you're out you never know when a DJ's going to drop a tune that completely flips the script and do something that you didn't think was possible in the context of dubstep.
Some DJs you can have a pretty shrewd guess that they aren't going to, though...

So any definition would have to have a "subject to change without prior notice next time Kode 9 plays" clause.

[cracktactics]

Dubstep is a white man's grime