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Post by saba » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:15 am

Ive heard things about this tune, but yet to check it out.
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Post by seckle » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:21 am

don't feel strongly either way in regards to tech itch doing dubstep. i just want to make the point that bogeyman put his plates out on storming, and no one knew it was twisted individual until long after the tune was released. hard to say if it would've made any difference in sales if people had known it was him beforehand. counter that with hench making sure everyone knew tech itch was on the buttons months before the tune was released. it's been interesting to watch how people from the dnb and dubstep scenes have reacted to it. just goes to show you that all these territorial divisions people make on the forums is totally counterproductive. i saw dnb go down this route about 5 years ago, and it killed the vibes big time. let's not make a habit of this on here.
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Post by subhuman » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:26 am

seckle wrote:don't feel strongly either way in regards to tech itch doing dubstep. i just want to make the point that bogeyman put his plates out on storming, and no one knew it was twisted individual until long after the tune was released. hard to say if it would have made any difference in sales if people had known it was him before hand. counter that with hench making sure everyone knew tech itch was on the buttons months before the tune was released. don't know which situation had the advantage in sales, but it's been interesting to watch how people from the dnb and dubstep scenes have reacted to it. just goes to show you that all these territorial divisions people make on the forums is totally counterproductive. i saw dnb go down this route about 5 years ago, and it killed the vibes big time. let's not make a habit of this on here.
very good speech bro. agreed

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Post by auralassassin » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:27 am

Wedge wrote:i'd like to hear one of your tunes mate, if you can produce that is! and if you are some kind of badman producer, how come i dont know who the fuck you are??!
I buy records, which means that people who make records and then turn around and sell them had better give a shit about the opinions of those whom they are trying to SELL A PRODUCT to. I didn't think the track was great. I hear the name "Tech Itch" and look at the body of work, the associations, the talent, the production values... and then I get this shit? I liked the flipside... I just don't like the Tech Itch track.

Are you going to cry about it? Is there sand in your dubstep vagina?

It was boring. Sounded like a loop of the same shit for 5 minutes... weak acid line and an annoying sample. I think they've done something... something to my bank account. and I'd like it back, is all.

And frankly, as a buyer of records... I think I'm entitled to as much of an opinion as any other buyer of records. So you need to reject the notion that I cannot form a negative opinion of a track, for the simple reason that I am not putting out tracks.

Writers aren't the only people on this planet that can read, bro. If something is trite or cliche, I call it like I see it. I suppose that Chefs are the only people on this planet who eat food, as well?
seckle wrote:don't feel strongly either way in regards to tech itch doing dubstep. i just want to make the point that bogeyman put his plates out on storming, and no one knew it was twisted individual until long after the tune was released. hard to say if it would have made any difference in sales if people had known it was him before hand. counter that with hench making sure everyone knew tech itch was on the buttons months before the tune was released. it's been interesting to watch how people from the dnb and dubstep scenes have reacted to it. just goes to show you that all these territorial divisions people make on the forums is totally counterproductive. i saw dnb go down this route about 5 years ago, and it killed the vibes big time. let's not make a habit of this on here.
I see what you mean. But I'll be damned if I just fall into line and say "huge." "big" "five" "reload"

when I'm not feeling a track. And when every other mixset I'm listening to has a track in it that is(at least in my own mind) completely only being played because of who produced it--I'm definately going to ask what the hell is going on.

Just because dubstep releases are few and far between, that doesn't mean we need to SETTLE for crappy tunes. Obviously I might be alone in my thinking that this song is not worth the cost of pressing--but I ask you this:

Is it not just as likely that people like this track because of who produced it, as it is that I hate this track because of who produced it?

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Post by gotc » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:55 am

auralassassin wrote:
Wedge wrote:i'd like to hear one of your tunes mate, if you can produce that is! and if you are some kind of badman producer, how come i dont know who the fuck you are??!
I buy records, which means that people who make records and then turn around and sell them had better give a shit about the opinions of those whom they are trying to SELL A PRODUCT to. I didn't think the track was great. I hear the name "Tech Itch" and look at the body of work, the associations, the talent, the production values... and then I get this shit? I liked the flipside... I just don't like the Tech Itch track.

Are you going to cry about it? Is there sand in your dubstep vagina?

It was boring. Sounded like a loop of the same shit for 5 minutes... weak acid line and an annoying sample. I think they've done something... something to my bank account. and I'd like it back, is all.

And frankly, as a buyer of records... I think I'm entitled to as much of an opinion as any other buyer of records. So you need to reject the notion that I cannot form a negative opinion of a track, for the simple reason that I am not putting out tracks.

Writers aren't the only people on this planet that can read, bro. If something is trite or cliche, I call it like I see it. I suppose that Chefs are the only people on this planet who eat food, as well?
seckle wrote:don't feel strongly either way in regards to tech itch doing dubstep. i just want to make the point that bogeyman put his plates out on storming, and no one knew it was twisted individual until long after the tune was released. hard to say if it would have made any difference in sales if people had known it was him before hand. counter that with hench making sure everyone knew tech itch was on the buttons months before the tune was released. it's been interesting to watch how people from the dnb and dubstep scenes have reacted to it. just goes to show you that all these territorial divisions people make on the forums is totally counterproductive. i saw dnb go down this route about 5 years ago, and it killed the vibes big time. let's not make a habit of this on here.
I see what you mean. But I'll be damned if I just fall into line and say "huge." "big" "five" "reload"

when I'm not feeling a track. And when every other mixset I'm listening to has a track in it that is(at least in my own mind) completely only being played because of who produced it--I'm definately going to ask what the hell is going on.

Just because dubstep releases are few and far between, that doesn't mean we need to SETTLE for crappy tunes. Obviously I might be alone in my thinking that this song is not worth the cost of pressing--but I ask you this:

Is it not just as likely that people like this track because of who produced it, as it is that I hate this track because of who produced it?
No need to get so worked up about it. You'll just end up beeing frustrated and bitter. It's the mans first release. God knows, his second release may become the new anthem.

About the track itself, not really convinced about it. The athmo in the Headhunter track is killing though :o

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Post by whitebait » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:58 am

It really shouldn't matter who produced it. Tunes and producers should stand on their own merit. I've never heard of tech itch as a dnb producer. The tune in question is aiiight, heard better heard worse. Will probably hear better and worse as time goes on. Shit has away of sorting itself out with the best eventually rising to the top regardless of hype and promo. Besides he's left himself room for improvement which is always a good thing. Hardly anyone has a banger first time out and those that do will probably have a hard time following it up.

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Post by auralassassin » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:07 am

in all fairness, this is the equivalent of Skream producing a trance tune, and not even good by trance standards...

not that dubstep is trance...

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Post by crazydave » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:23 am

seckle wrote:all these territorial divisions people make on the forums is totally counterproductive.
^^^ that.

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Re: Tech Itch dubstep?

Post by doomstep » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:31 am

auralassassin wrote:Not really feeling it. Sounds to me like a drum n bass producer was listening to some dubstep and thought he could half-ass his way through a production. Mediocre at best, IMO.
heres the problem, really, its best to keep ur opinions to yourself, unless asked for it, of course.

Startin a thread cos ur feelin dumb cos you bought a record without knowing the tunes is pure-waste. If you make a habit of buying records you havnt heard (but have heard of) you need to accept some will be goldfish.

Silence speaks volumes brother :|
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Post by batfink » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:37 am

UG. DNB BAD. DUBSTEP GOOD. DNB PRODUCER MAKE DUBSTEP BAD.

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is it?

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Re: Tech Itch dubstep?

Post by auralassassin » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:47 am

doomstep wrote:
auralassassin wrote:Not really feeling it. Sounds to me like a drum n bass producer was listening to some dubstep and thought he could half-ass his way through a production. Mediocre at best, IMO.
heres the problem, really, its best to keep ur opinions to yourself, unless asked for it, of course.

Startin a thread cos ur feelin dumb cos you bought a record without knowing the tunes is pure-waste. If you make a habit of buying records you havnt heard (but have heard of) you need to accept some will be goldfish.

Silence speaks volumes brother :|
Absolutely not. I'm not feeling dumb. I like and play the other track on the record. It's not the first time that I've only liked half of a record before and it won't be the last. I was really just trying to get a grasp for how many people are actually feeling the track. It seems I am in the minority here, but a few other people I know think it's shit as well, so I guess I wanted a little public opinion.

Anyone who knows who Tech Itch is, even if they don't like the tunes can still tell you that the guy can produce some sinister tracks. This is seriously some of his worst stuff.

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Post by hate recordings » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:48 am

i dunno, tech itch is a don on all fronts as far as REAL dons go. he certainly is probally one of the least popular of the major producers/dj's in the dnb circuit, but ask yourself this... who's more popular? slayer or 50 cent? you get me?

he doesn't compromise for what's popular as far as most dnb producers are concerned. doesnt try to appeal to the masses like certain dj's/producer that will be unnamed. but if it werent for tech itch, i wouldnt be here today. period. my interest for dnb wouldve diminished faster than a club drug dealer's supply of e pills on a night with a tiesto headliner.

however, i dont hold any favoratism on any producer as far as criticism is concerned. ive heard some of my most cherished favorate producers turn to shit literally overnight. i wont go out and buy records just cuz someone's name is on them. i wont big up a tune if it's shit, FACT. with that being said:

the tune on asc 01 by ti isnt his best. i probally wouldnt buy that plate if it was 2 songs of that calibre on both sides. the hedhunter side is heat tho, but again, its definately not his best. ive heard MUCH better from both of them by listening to wedge's show. they are BLAZIN'.

this is one release. not everyone thinks renegade hardware's first release is a standard, by far. however, over time using the same sound and elevating that sound to the next shit, they became one of the most reputable labels in the genre.

the same will apply to ascension and the hench crew in general. theyre going to change the scene in a serious way. they only got one plate out. you just wait. if i could have it my way, id put out a plate by them RIGHT NOW. that's how serious those guys are.

i think tech itch and the hench crew are doing things for dubstep that are just pheonominal. not just for dubstep, but for music altogether. i have yet to hear any quality dubstep come from any producer consistantly than i hear come from these guys every week (and yes, all a matter of taste, im sure). jakes, wedge, hedhunter, white boi, all those guys, theyre doing something DIFFERENT, even for dubstep. its hard, its fresh, its dark and its musical. it's the next shit.

if you have heard tech itch's "distort" yet, and still aint got no props, then obviously this is a portion of dubstep that you should just stay out of. i don't run around saying "fresh sucks. fuck him! fuck jump up! im just looking out for the consumer!", ect. i keep my nose out of that section of music. this is why i dont post on doa. it's not where i belong, and i have nothing positive to say to most of those people.

you should probally do the same. there's no reason to start beef in a community that is just begining to really form and gain large amounts of fans. it doesn't reflect well on the community. don't be the virus trying to attack the body. respect.

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Post by joseph-j » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:49 am

Wedge wrote:
auralassassin wrote:
It's not that it doesn't sound like every other track(which it doesn't) it's that I think it's a shit track, man. quote]


i'd like to hear one of your tunes mate, if you can produce that is! and if you are some kind of badman producer, how come i dont know who the fuck you are??!
So you're only allowed an opinion if you make music? Joke.

The reason I don't like the Tech Itch stuff is that its too "grrr". I used to love my "grrr" dnb, but it doesn't work with dubstep. It needs to be more subtle. Its not only the Tech Itch stuff, but some other dubstep has this whole "grrr" narly sound to it that doesn't really work.

I don't think we should still be having this dnb vs dubstep crap though. And I don't think anyone's having a bash at Tech Itch, really. There are just some people that don't really feel it, don't make a mountain out of a molehill.

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Post by ramadanman » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:52 am

on the subject of the tune, yes, i've heard better, but i've also heard a lot worse.

it's a popular record, a lot of people buying and playing it.

no need to start negativity and start threads saying stuff like "it sounds like shit that i made 10 years ago". :roll:

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Post by batfink » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:04 am

Joseph-J wrote:The reason I don't like the Tech Itch stuff is that its too "grrr". I used to love my "grrr" dnb, but it doesn't work with dubstep. It needs to be more subtle. Its not only the Tech Itch stuff, but some other dubstep has this whole "grrr" narly sound to it that doesn't really work.
This is all personal opinion. Vex'd is grr and it works fine, its simply a matter of execution.

Is there some special "Is this tune really dubstep?" questionnaire that i've missed along the way? :wink:
is it?

NO.

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Post by antilynd » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:12 am

I'm not much of a dnb fan, so the tune doesn't do much for me, it's just too dnb-ish for me. But I'd definitely love to see more dnb producers get into dubstep cuz to me, some dnb producers are great artists who just happen to make the wrong music...
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Post by auralassassin » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:25 am

Joseph-J wrote:
Wedge wrote:
auralassassin wrote:
It's not that it doesn't sound like every other track(which it doesn't) it's that I think it's a shit track, man. quote]


i'd like to hear one of your tunes mate, if you can produce that is! and if you are some kind of badman producer, how come i dont know who the fuck you are??!
So you're only allowed an opinion if you make music? Joke.

The reason I don't like the Tech Itch stuff is that its too "grrr". I used to love my "grrr" dnb, but it doesn't work with dubstep. It needs to be more subtle. Its not only the Tech Itch stuff, but some other dubstep has this whole "grrr" narly sound to it that doesn't really work.

I don't think we should still be having this dnb vs dubstep crap though. And I don't think anyone's having a bash at Tech Itch, really. There are just some people that don't really feel it, don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
that was me quoting someone else, man... I don't think that way.

But you are right.. it's not about whether or not this is dubstep... it's that I just don't like the track, and was wondering why other people liked it... perhaps I'm missing something. thats all.

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Post by joseph-j » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:25 am

Batfink wrote:This is all personal opinion. Vex'd is grr and it works fine, its simply a matter of execution.

Is there some special "Is this tune really dubstep?" questionnaire that i've missed along the way? :wink:
Personal opinion? Of course it is!! I'm not one of those "this isn't dubstep, this is" people, I'm not that much of a purist.

I was just saying why Tech Itch didn't do it for me (and why some Vex'd doesn't either, now that you bring them up!), and that the fact that he also makes dnb should be irrelevant.

Take the tune on its own merit.

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Post by seckle » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:40 am

on a realistic note, tech itch has been making tunes since 1992. i highly doubt he's losing sleep over the fact that any of us like or don't like implant. lol. he's had enough battering on doa and other forums over his dnb tunes that i bet this is making him really LOL. right, carry on if you need to..

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