Production wise, what's the next thing you want to learn?

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:35 pm

I'm trying to get my head round writing riffs and things that actually follow chord structure as opposed to just being randomly placed and shit sounding.

elbe · Post by **elbe** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:37 pm

to be honest, getting good structure and developing my 'beats' into tracks.

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:42 pm

Wub wrote:I'm trying to get my head round writing riffs and things that actually follow chord structure as opposed to just being randomly placed and shit sounding.

ditto, thats why im learning to play guitar now.

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:42 pm

Wub wrote:I'm trying to get my head round writing riffs and things that actually follow chord structure as opposed to just being randomly placed and shit sounding.

yes yes!

I use a virtual piano chord chart for this. you plug in a key, it'll give you a scale and the chords

eLBe wrote:to be honest, getting good structure and developing my 'beats' into tracks.

also a great objective

what I'd like to get my head around is that "metallic" sounding bassline

I love it and I don't have the tools or the knowledge to create it!

soon tho

big shout out to Wub for making quality threads in this forum

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:43 pm

Wibble bass is my next move.

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:46 pm

FM Snythesis!

lonecurrent · Post by **lonecurrent** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:58 pm

FSTZ: what I'd like to get my head around is that "metallic" sounding bassline

-> me too. like rusko's jahova that grimey mid range bass quality.

mae · Post by **mae** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:59 pm

too much to write!

im trawling through ravensprial to improve my understanding of theory, but also want to improve lots and lots and lots of other things - understanding EQ, compression, being near the top of the list + mix downs and synching hip hop vocals (taking me way too long and never 100% sure about it)

elbe · Post by **elbe** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:00 pm

unklefesta wrote:
what I'd like to get my head around is that "metallic" sounding bassline

I love it and I don't have the tools or the knowledge to create it!

soon tho

big shout out to Wub for making quality threads in this forum

Using an additive synth and keep the high frequencys up usually gives a fairly mettalic sound, never tried this on bass tho

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:11 pm

unklefesta wrote: what I'd like to get my head around is that "metallic" sounding bassline

I love it and I don't have the tools or the knowledge to create it!

Use a pure sine wave pitched around 40 - 90 Hz.

I'd like to get better at doing tension / release (esp by varying rhythms) and structuring stuff to take advantage of it.

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:18 pm

i dunno if this is a technical term, but groove and sound sculpting - manipulating the dynamics of samples so as to create more cohesive grooves

there are two parts - learning the techniques to have more control over dynamics, and mentally getting my head thinking in a different way about the way elements of a track relate to each other rhythmically, and how they can be used to create different grooves

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:24 pm

Morphing
Cutting up bounced down tracks properly
Drumz

Not making shit choons.

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:37 pm

werd people!

thanks for the tips

I'll have to hit up my homie at Native Instruments for a copy of FM8 cuz I don't think I have the proper synth for that

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:39 pm

i think im in the song structure camp. i find i spend to much time on creating loops or segments of tracks on their own rather than how they fit into the context of where i want the track to go. i end up making multiple different track ideas not one cohesive track

getting some sort of scale/chord chart is crucial.. that virtual one sounds great fest, ive got a $5 book for piano players that just has charts and graphics of everything

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:46 pm

abstractsound wrote:
getting some sort of scale/chord chart is crucial.. that virtual one sounds great fest, ive got a $5 book for piano players that just has charts and graphics of everything

Virtual Piano Chord Chart

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:49 pm

yeah

song structure is pretty easy for me (because I mostly make dancefloor tunes)

I just make sure my intros make sense mathematically

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:05 pm

much thanks brethren

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:06 pm

I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...

I'm constantly fighting off the instinct to write tunes with verses, choruses, bridges and middle eights.

elbe · Post by **elbe** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:09 pm

abstractsound wrote:i think im in the song structure camp. i find i spend to much time on creating loops or segments of tracks on their own rather than how they fit into the context of where i want the track to go. i end up making multiple different track ideas not one cohesive track

getting some sort of scale/chord chart is crucial.. that virtual one sounds great fest, ive got a $5 book for piano players that just has charts and graphics of everything

They way I'm try is to spend as little time on the loop as possible, and not falling into the trap of listening to it for ages, your mind becomes accustomed and it becomes hard to make anythnig else work with it

MARCHMELLOW · Post by **MARCHMELLOW** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:33 pm

two oh one wrote:I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...

I'm constantly fighting off the instinct to write tunes with verses, choruses, bridges and middle eights.

i'm totally with you on this one, sounds crazy, but i need to learn to make stuff more simple and straight up-nasty! gotta stop using vocals, and trying to create big long songs!

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