Production wise, what's the next thing you want to learn?

addict · Post by **addict** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:23 pm

for me its learning how to make music....

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:51 pm

Wub wrote: Virtual Piano Chord Chart

thats the one I use

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:52 pm

two oh one wrote:I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...

I'm constantly fighting off the instinct to write tunes with verses, choruses, bridges and middle eights.

haha!

you got me there buddy guy!

(you are sooo sarcastic, the others can't even tell how much of a piss take it is

)

fixation · Post by **fixation** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:57 pm

as i have just started its really just gettin confortable with FL, and starting to understand how to build a song, and just general music theory knowledge, i used to play drums and saxaphone so it shouldnt be too hard too get back into musical mode

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:15 pm

unklefesta wrote:
two oh one wrote:I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...

I'm constantly fighting off the instinct to write tunes with verses, choruses, bridges and middle eights.

haha!

you got me there buddy guy!

(you are sooo sarcastic, the others can't even tell how much of a piss take it is )

No, I'm really fighting it. I usually write vocal tunes to strict tune formula. It's difficult for me breaking from that.

I used to do it the other way, but I got into the 'proper' stuff and have a lot of difficulty shaking it.

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:24 pm

well, I struggle in the exact opposite direction

I could deffo benefit from a more "songlike" formulae

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:25 pm

unklefesta wrote:well, I struggle in the exact opposite direction

I could deffo benefit from a more "songlike" formulae

We should swap!

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:27 pm

Apart from everything?

At the moment I'm concerned with making the drums/bass really rhythmically solid/animated, particularly the drums. Its really hard to make drums that sound really solid and energetic, with swing, but not too loose or weak. Been listening to a lot of house/techno/garage recently and I'm trying to work out how grooves are created within the drum track to add to it.

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:36 pm

They way I'm try is to spend as little time on the loop as possible, and not falling into the trap of listening to it for ages, your mind becomes accustomed and it becomes hard to make anythnig else work with it[/quote]

yeah man thats what ive discovered.. sometimes i cant settle on simple and start trying to fill in the empty spaces with things and i get into a perpetual 16 bar loop

tempest · Post by **tempest** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:37 pm

Forever trying to get my drums bigger, crispier, slinkier and other describing words for dope drums.

Also to start delving deeper into FM synthesis.

Perfecting song structure is up there too. Creating interest, building and dropping energy.

Just to keep jamming and having fun with it all

Keep at it all you bedroom beatmakers, shake up the walls

monksta · Post by **monksta** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:51 pm

turning beats into tracks

uproot · Post by **uproot** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:13 am

Next thing I'm working on is creating different sounds that evolve together without noticable transition... using Pulse width modulation is a big help

elgato wrote:i dunno if this is a technical term, but groove and sound sculpting - manipulating the dynamics of samples so as to create more cohesive grooves

there are two parts - learning the techniques to have more control over dynamics, and mentally getting my head thinking in a different way about the way elements of a track relate to each other rhythmically, and how they can be used to create different grooves

Check out Spectrasonics Stylus... "Groove" is in its description

djake · Post by **djake** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:04 am

more about compression and eq

habitualbeatscamp · Post by **habitualbeatscamp** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:23 am

two oh one wrote:I need to work out how to make formulaic dancefloor nonsense where you just add another percussive element every 8 bars, or twiddle an low pass filter and then call it progression...

To be fuckin completely honest.. I haven't the slightest clue what I am doing when it comes to music. I just make stuff and upload it to MySpace.

I think I put alot of stress on myself to make each track a banger, and it has sucked some of the fun out of it.

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:38 am

the mix!

just a question of spending the time and getting the mechanics right

as for structure, need to get out of the 'song' mindset, intro, verse, chorus, verse chorus, bridge, etc etc

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:42 am

mic placement and recording real instruments although I have moved opposite a pretty well respected studio so I am going to book some sessions (I know some fucking awesome singers and musicians) maybe I'll pick up a few things from those sessions

dynamixuk · Post by **dynamixuk** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:44 am

forensix (mcr) wrote:mic placement and recording real instruments although I have moved opposite a pretty well respected studio so I am going to book some sessions (I know some fucking awesome singers and musicians) maybe I'll pick up a few things from those sessions

got some books and notes from uni you can nab mate

toiminto · Post by **toiminto** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:46 am

i want to get some binaural mics and do some binaural recordings

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:54 am

uproot wrote:
elgato wrote:i dunno if this is a technical term, but groove and sound sculpting - manipulating the dynamics of samples so as to create more cohesive grooves

there are two parts - learning the techniques to have more control over dynamics, and mentally getting my head thinking in a different way about the way elements of a track relate to each other rhythmically, and how they can be used to create different grooves
Check out Spectrasonics Stylus... "Groove" is in its description

that thing looks odd... whats the crack? you put it on a bus routing all the tracks you want to bring together in the groove and then process them together? is there something im missing?

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:07 am

i would like to learn how to get ur singers to pull their fingers out their bums and come up with some recordable material.

Production wise, what's the next thing you want to learn?

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