mixes @ 146 bpm -- how come?

antilynd · Post by **antilynd** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:51 pm

Is there any particular reason why some mixes (practice hours, allstars 3) are like 8 to 10 beats faster than the original tunes? I mean, a reason that's different from: the DJ being like "it just sounds better"...

not that I'd mind, tho ...just wondering...

dj $hy · Post by **dj $hy** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:21 pm

I cant believe they are 146, it'd sound silly.

My mixers got a BPM clock n always ready around 140/142

batfink · Post by **batfink** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:51 pm

i might be wrong but if youre using technics you dont want to mix tunes really close to the 0% mark on the pitch slider as it makes mixing an ass. The pitch control isn't very sensitive just below and above the 0% mark i seem to remember. So if all the tunes are 138 or thereabouts it'd make sense to speed em up by a couple of percent...........

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:57 pm

make sure it's playing back at the same bitrate as the file itself - for example if you load a sample into Logic that's 44.1kHz (CD quality) but you run Logic at 48kHz the sample will sound faster than it should - basically cos there are more frames being played back per second than it should...

Just an idea.

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:13 pm

Batfink wrote:i might be wrong but if youre using technics you dont want to mix tunes really close to the 0% mark on the pitch slider as it makes mixing an ass. The pitch control isn't very sensitive just below and above the 0% mark i seem to remember. So if all the tunes are 138 or thereabouts it'd make sense to speed em up by a couple of percent...........

yeah did they correct that with the mk3? the mk2s i have definitely have that problem

antilynd · Post by **antilynd** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:47 pm

DJ $hy wrote:I cant believe they are 146, it'd sound silly.

yea, that's what I was thinking too, after I'd run Practice Hours through MixMeister BPM Analyzer (a nice freeware thingy which is usually quite accurate). But then I double-checked it with Ableton Live: same result. They're all around 146. So is the entire Dubstep Allstars 3. These two mixes also 'feel' somewhat faster to me.

Another test I did was: Haunted, vinyl version vs. Allstars version. 142 vs. 145. And again: identical results with both programs.

weird. but whatever... soccer time now.

antilynd · Post by **antilynd** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:52 pm

Batfink wrote:i might be wrong but if youre using technics you dont want to mix tunes really close to the 0% mark on the pitch slider as it makes mixing an ass. The pitch control isn't very sensitive just below and above the 0% mark i seem to remember. So if all the tunes are 138 or thereabouts it'd make sense to speed em up by a couple of percent...........

so if you're mixing at, say, +5%, a 138 tune will turn into 145... sounds reasonable.

dj $hy · Post by **dj $hy** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:55 pm

Hmm I never really get to plus 5, bout 3ish but thats why I mix at 142ish!

Seems weird to me that the cd is 146 unless its been sped up...

It just dont sound right at 146 I swear BUT I'ma gonna go home and do it n see!

dj $hy · Post by **dj $hy** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:57 pm

Putting the pitch to zero on a deck will play the track at the bpm the artist created it on. So when you make beats, doing it at 140 is a bitch cos its bang on 0!

Citrus Boy · Post by **Citrus Boy** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:09 pm

funny.my cdj always said 142-145 when I used to play..but the bpm counter on it aint all that..techs normally at +4 to +6..dunno nowadays, I aint played for months.

grievous_angel · Post by **grievous_angel** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:13 pm

Some of the big DJs and producers are playing and producing at higher tempos these days.

Anyone producing at 120?

sek [espionage] · Post by **sek [espionage]** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:15 pm

blame it on technics.

the curse of dance music!!

mixes @ 146 bpm -- how come?

mixes @ 146 bpm -- how come?

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