I cut dubplates....

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:30 pm

Fair play man, would be interested in hearing one of your plates but I sadly don't have the land to plant enough trees to offset that kinda oil/miles ratio.

Will be popping into Transition with a coupla WAV's soon though, unless you would rather have a high res as mentioned above?

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:32 pm

Slothrop wrote:
Jubscarz wrote:
jaybird wrote:the cutters forum..
Ooh arr, ai been a member of the ol' Cutters Forum for nigh on eleventy years me brethren

I was going to ask whether this meant emo kids were listening to dubstep nowadays...

he didn't say Cutters Choice forum

jaybird · Post by **jaybird** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:33 pm

brklss wrote:
dubluke wrote:
brklss wrote:
darkmatter wrote: This guy can probably offer great value dubs but obviously can't do the full service, so they'd be fine for one off mono pressings but not for labels.

yup.
WTF. Why do you think labels are interested in dubplates? They don't sell dubplates.
he was talking about "the full service" ie. mastering etc.

labels are interested in this as they need tunes mastering and tweaking to sound the best before they are pressed
This thread is about dubplates only.

tru... I would LOVE a pro setup, and could rock it.. can't afford it.. soo no mastering by me right now..

skrewface · Post by **skrewface** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:15 am

Spaniard wrote:
skrewface wrote:
Spaniard wrote:Transition have big competition hahaha, why would you post a thread like this you know you gonna dissed. I dont know shit about cutting dubplates for the record.
Why not?
Possibly because Transition have the best reputation for cutting dubplates.

Oh lawd

tranquera · Post by **tranquera** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:44 am

I'm reading this post and I found it very useful... Big up Jason and Transition crew! The best records I have are prepared from you!

subscape · Post by **subscape** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:01 am

usefull thread...... its interesting to hear what J and Jaybird have to say about cutting their dubs.

but i also think a big part of getting good cuts is down to the individual who is cutting it and the source. obviously lack of equipment can hold you back but if you know it inside out and you've got a good ear for it, then theres probably a good end result....

jaybird · Post by **jaybird** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:44 am

I like 'um....

thanks for the kind word ppls...

OoGuN · Post by **OoGuN** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:19 am

Big ups to Jaybird for this thread!!! Always good to learn about cutting:) Big ups to Chef and Jason too, it's made the thread like listening to an interesting conversation.

No big ups to anyone making a fool of themselves by speaking for Transition and saying stuff on their behalf that they wouldn't say themselves...

if you don't know what you're talking about, shut up! How hard is that?

Any of you cutters fancy moving over to NZ?

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:13 am

brklss wrote:
dubluke wrote:
brklss wrote:
darkmatter wrote: This guy can probably offer great value dubs but obviously can't do the full service, so they'd be fine for one off mono pressings but not for labels.

yup.
WTF. Why do you think labels are interested in dubplates? They don't sell dubplates.
he was talking about "the full service" ie. mastering etc.

labels are interested in this as they need tunes mastering and tweaking to sound the best before they are pressed
This thread is about dubplates only.

oh and HEAVEN FORBID it may go slightly off topic to discussion about something related, my bad....

jaybird · Post by **jaybird** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:05 pm

OoGuN wrote:Any of you cutters fancy moving over to NZ?

google peter king records, I'm pretty sure he still operates his famous lathe. He is in NZ..

http://home.comcast.net/~cassetto/kingcontact.html

there are also a couple good cutters on that big island next door..

http://zenithrecords.org/

lohan · Post by **lohan** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:55 pm

Wicked mate. It's good to see people doing their thing.
I have a question bruv...
Phase cancellation..... If someone's got bare stereo imaging going on on certain frequencies in their track, do you mix the left and right singals together or use one of the stereo tracks? Just a thought mate. People would probably have to give you a completely mono mix for the best cut I suppose, otherwise you would be getting some weird sonic anomalies due to phase cancellation.
Cutting old school style innit? I'd be interested to hear one of your Dubs mate.

jaybird · Post by **jaybird** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:23 pm

A good cutter should be able to deal with all of your concerns, I personally spend a good amount of time listening to the track I'm about to cut. This should not be a problem.

I would just prepare your track to the way you think it sounds best, or have an engineer take care of the mixing and mastering. Then just send the wav file/tape/dat to the cutter..

I always start with a stereo track, and it ends up as mono on the plate..

rogue star · Post by **rogue star** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:35 pm

Awesome thread and i would like to add that its great that all the gang stateside are able to cut their dubs now, rather then paying all that posting and shipping, GWARN! Im sure your going to be working 24/7 from now jaybird

Props and good luck

Im all about the geeky stuff

MARCHMELLOW · Post by **MARCHMELLOW** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:47 pm

i don't think i've ever spent so long reading a thread before!

nice bitta education!

gimme more!

jaybird · Post by **jaybird** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:56 pm

gaston_UK wrote:i don't think i've ever spent so long reading a thread before!

nice bitta education!

gimme more!

whaddya want to know?

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:34 pm

yeah great thread indeed.

MARCHMELLOW · Post by **MARCHMELLOW** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:50 pm

jaybird wrote:
gaston_UK wrote:i don't think i've ever spent so long reading a thread before!

nice bitta education!

gimme more!
whaddya want to know?

mmmmm, ok - you said previously you have had some bad sounding vinyl's cut, me too! - you also said you don't master, you just cut - so my question is what did you, and would recommend others to, do to fix this problem? in terms of production. i'm guessing the quick answer would be to get someone else to master your track, but what if this wasn't an option?... i'm just curious

jaybird · Post by **jaybird** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:18 pm

gaston_UK wrote: mmmmm, ok - you said previously you have had some bad sounding vinyl's cut, me too! - you also said you don't master, you just cut - so my question is what did you, and would recommend others to, do to fix this problem? in terms of production. i'm guessing the quick answer would be to get someone else to master your track, but what if this wasn't an option?... i'm just curious

Well I don't cut masters. Masters meaning, the acetate that gets sent to a metal shop to have mothers, and stampers made from it.

I of course perform mastering to my final mixdowns of the tracks I write. This is where reading books, and mags come into play. It took me a long time to get that right.

I suggest checking out Future music UK, and Computer music UK. These mags are hard to find and expensive in the US, but they are local to you. Both are great resources. Also look into a book for audio engineering students. Once you know the fundamentals of sound, then you'll get how to master your tunes to sound perfect.

I also recommend mixing through monitors with no subs, and speakers with a low end driver not larger the 6.5". I use Genelec 1029A's.. If your tunes sound good on those kinds of speakers, they will sound good on any..

OoGuN · Post by **OoGuN** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:26 pm

jaybird wrote:
OoGuN wrote:Any of you cutters fancy moving over to NZ?
google peter king records, I'm pretty sure he still operates his famous lathe. He is in NZ..

there are also a couple good cutters on that big island next door..
http://zenithrecords.org/

hey cheers for that info. Found the Peter King stuff really fascinating and will have a look at the zenith one too. At the moment I'm sending my dubs to Bristol to get them cut...

jukata · Post by **jukata** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:49 am

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Very interesting discussion you have going on here fellas.

Indeed we do have a lack of quality cutters stateside, especially in the area Jay works in.

I cut dubplates....

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