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Post by wasteman » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:19 pm

Its funny people are saying it shows you don't need the latest software but instead they are looking to get some old shit, do you not possible think it really shows what you have is enough? I really really wouldn't bother trying to get hold of an old copy of logic just because benga uses it, just look at the way he IS using it, i.e. as a standard sequencer. All that can be done in pretty much any sequencer.

I found these Ian Carey videos much more interesting in terms of production.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?do ... iwLR3oy0BA

Just type In the studio Ian Carey, theres quite a few - masterings interesting never heard of 5 compressors on the masterbus.

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Post by John Locke » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:08 pm

wasteman wrote:Its funny people are saying it shows you don't need the latest software but instead they are looking to get some old shit, do you not possible think it really shows what you have is enough? I really really wouldn't bother trying to get hold of an old copy of logic just because benga uses it, just look at the way he IS using it, i.e. as a standard sequencer. All that can be done in pretty much any sequencer.

I found these Ian Carey videos much more interesting in terms of production.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?do ... iwLR3oy0BA

Just type In the studio Ian Carey, theres quite a few - masterings interesting never heard of 5 compressors on the masterbus.

what i meant, only without the tourettes syndrome

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Post by boyd » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:17 pm

Battle Gong wrote:what, now out of date software is cool cos a name uses it?

i really wouldnt fuss over what DAW benga or anyone else is using. its totally irrelevant and seriously clutching at straws: either u got talent and know yr tools or not. using "retro" software aint gonna give u any adavantages. use one program (new, old, home made, just as long as u like it), and use it well. thats all.

what next? ppl gonna rush out and buy the same wallpaper as plastician got in his bedroom in the hope it rubs off on em?
I don't think many people are wanting to use the same software becuase they think they'll then produce tunes as good as benga's. At least I'd hope not many people taking producing seriously are that deluded.

I think it's more a confidence booster in the sense that if you know you have the same software as benga, or anyone else you admire, you can't make any excuses to yourself that your tunes aren't working because you don't have the right gear. It's all you from that point and you can stop thinking 'maybe if I had the newest version of cubase I could make my tunes better'.

This isn't really how I think - If you've got a good bassline or whatever then any software is enough if you learn to use it well - but I can relate to it. Sometimes if you're stuck you need a bit of reassurance that different equipment won't neccessarilly make a difference.

Incidentilly I now feel slightly robbed that I payed £6 for this dvd :wink:

edit - what wasteman said basically, didn't see that before

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Post by cryptic » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:01 pm

Incidentilly I now feel slightly robbed that I payed £6 for this dvd
Same here lol

Its double standards on here tho. You talk about rips/wares you get slated. You upload a copyrighted video and you get praised
:roll:

No offense to addict. Its just certain heads that have replied normally are the first to go on about it.

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Post by addict » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:32 pm

CRYPTIC wrote:
Incidentilly I now feel slightly robbed that I payed £6 for this dvd
Same here lol

Its double standards on here tho. You talk about rips/wares you get slated. You upload a copyrighted video and you get praised
:roll:

No offense to addict. Its just certain heads that have replied normally are the first to go on about it.
haha, and yeh if u didnt see in the original thread i dint buy the mag, i found the dvd. brucie bonus, did it for the heads, trust.

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Post by OoGuN » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:37 am

CRYPTIC wrote:
Incidentilly I now feel slightly robbed that I payed £6 for this dvd
Same here lol

Its double standards on here tho. You talk about rips/wares you get slated. You upload a copyrighted video and you get praised
:roll:

No offense to addict. Its just certain heads that have replied normally are the first to go on about it.
Too true.... having said that, I buy Future Music all the time anyway and will be buying this one when it gets to NZ. Just happy for a chance to see it early so to speak.
There's more reasons to read FM than just because Benga's in it and I'm not sure how many people would buy it just for that so maybe no loss to the magazine..you're right though it's still yo ho ho and a bottle of rum but that's a whole other issue that I don't want to go near..

anyway on watching it, it does seem like it's not the whole thing, at the beginning of part two he's suddenly talking about automation as if he's finishing a sentence... if so, you'll still have to buy it to see it all...
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Post by boyd » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:07 pm

wasteman wrote:Its funny people are saying it shows you don't need the latest software but instead they are looking to get some old shit, do you not possible think it really shows what you have is enough? I really really wouldn't bother trying to get hold of an old copy of logic just because benga uses it, just look at the way he IS using it, i.e. as a standard sequencer. All that can be done in pretty much any sequencer.

I found these Ian Carey videos much more interesting in terms of production.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?do ... iwLR3oy0BA

Just type In the studio Ian Carey, theres quite a few - masterings interesting never heard of 5 compressors on the masterbus.
Those Ian Carey vids were really useful, thanks. He seems like a legend.

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hello Plastician

Post by t.a.a » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:07 pm

Plastician wrote:for the record, on the subject of old software i still use fruityloops 3.5 for the majority of my productions. A lot of them i don't even use vst's.
not to be rude but is this also because you may use a cracked version of FL?

the mag is worth the buy regardless esp if your particulary interested in this as the print interview covers more...but it's Future Music so always helpful

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Re: hello Plastician

Post by twatty vagitis » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:23 pm

t.a.a wrote:
Plastician wrote:for the record, on the subject of old software i still use fruityloops 3.5 for the majority of my productions. A lot of them i don't even use vst's.
not to be rude but is this also because you may use a cracked version of FL?

the mag is worth the buy regardless esp if your particulary interested in this as the print interview covers more...but it's Future Music so always helpful
While not assuming either way if his software is cracked or not. Surely if you were to go down the route of using warez, would you not have a more up to date version?
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Post by plastician » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:24 am

I have FL 7 on my PC, not cracked versions, I've actually been sent copies of FL by the developers in the past, I just prefer the layout of 3.56

I'm getting to grips with FL7 just now, its nice but I still like the old style timeline
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Post by t.a.a » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:29 pm

twatty vagitis wrote:
t.a.a wrote:
Plastician wrote:for the record, on the subject of old software i still use fruityloops 3.5 for the majority of my productions. A lot of them i don't even use vst's.
not to be rude but is this also because you may use a cracked version of FL?

the mag is worth the buy regardless esp if your particulary interested in this as the print interview covers more...but it's Future Music so always helpful
While not assuming either way if his software is cracked or not. Surely if you were to go down the route of using warez, would you not have a more up to date version?
very true
Plastician wrote:I have FL 7 on my PC, not cracked versions, I've actually been sent copies of FL by the developers in the past, I just prefer the layout of 3.56

I'm getting to grips with FL7 just now, its nice but I still like the old style timeline
thanks for the reply man

wow - free software! it's funny your just getting to grips with 7 as it's now on 8 lol. you should become a power user on their site - just a thought

exactly though...new software doesn't automatically mean bangers

thanks again

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keepin up

Post by geiom » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:13 pm

I really hope people don't actually think like this -

'maybe if I had the newest version of cubase I could make my tunes better'.

Dance music has be made on all versions of Cubase from the Atari days onwards.

and before.

its all about ideas innit - Benga was not using many fancy tricks - just getting a sick beat and 2 riffs together.

you can't copy his skill/taste/vision - that's why he's not bothered about showing how he does his ting....

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Post by dawntreader » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:36 am

geiom wrote:I really hope people don't actually think like this -

'maybe if I had the newest version of cubase I could make my tunes better'.

Dance music has be made on all versions of Cubase from the Atari days onwards.

and before.

its all about ideas innit - Benga was not using many fancy tricks - just getting a sick beat and 2 riffs together.

you can't copy his skill/taste/vision - that's why he's not bothered about showing how he does his ting....
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Post by Dodger Man » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:00 am

Benga Benga Benga he is a G!
The reason his tunes are successful, in my opinion is because they are simple. Good melodies, catchy hooks and big sounding very rhythmic orientated beats. You dont need the latest Sequencer to help out! Bengas got a talent, thats all you need...

The only reason i would be interested in getting the PC logic is to learn the basics of the software without having to spend £500 + on a mac. How much improvements have been made since the PC version!?

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Post by setspeed » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:09 am

samthedodgeman wrote:Benga Benga Benga he is a G!
The reason his tunes are successful, in my opinion is because they are simple. Good melodies, catchy hooks and big sounding very rhythmic orientated beats. You dont need the latest Sequencer to help out! Bengas got a talent, thats all you need...

The only reason i would be interested in getting the PC logic is to learn the basics of the software without having to spend £500 + on a mac. How much improvements have been made since the PC version!?
loads!

i switched in january. the main benefits are the layout of stuff - it's easier to navigate i think, it's less buggy - the ES2 finally works properly :D , the new EQ's that come bundled are much better than the Fat EQ on v5.5, there are some other new plugins and a couple of new synths, you get loads of bundled sounds (the orchestral strings are great, and there's loads of stuff like 808, 909 kits etc) - oh - and there's ultrabeat which is a pretty handy drum machine. also you can bounce 'offline' which means it doesn't have to play the tune through in realtime while it's bouncing. which was a blessing for me because sometimes bouncing a tune down could take hours.

and if you get a student to buy it for you it's £118 for a fully legit copy. i am totally into it. :D :D

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Post by efa » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:29 pm

geiom wrote:I really hope people don't actually think like this -
TBH when I was looking for a DAW, I was very interested to hear what people who made the music I wanted to make were using, just so I made the right choice and funnily enough I chose that version of logic. I assume other people would be the same to some degree (met some mad obsessive ppl who need to know what ppl using etc). It turned out that I couldn't get on with it for shit and same with Reason so ended up using something called Project 5 and later rewired it into Cakewalk - this was great till I started beefing up my productions and realised it was killing my PC resource and fucking up all my VST's, my pc crashed all the time but I made (and lost) some awrite tunes!

I first made tunes properly on a Roland MC303 and if the battery hadn't have died I'd still be using it today as I used nothing but my ears to get a mixdown. I've learned throughout time that it doesn't matter what you use as long as you can get your best ideas down and you don't lose them. (Benga must have bare backups of his shit these days after what happened to him)
you can't copy his skill/taste/vision - that's why he's not bothered about showing how he does his ting....
Couldn't have put it better myself, its a shame more people haven't commented on how talented a producer Benga actually and how it is those little tricks he's using that make a tune sound live. I was please to see that I do a lot of what he does and a lot I've forgotten or stopped doing (bussing) what I'm really struggling with atm is inspiration.

If you wanna get fussy then that synth he's using was built for Trance Pads and benga makes his basslines on it, sick! All about trying something different to give your sound character, create these little rules or boundaries for your self to work within (theres a reason why Rain is so short) keep rewriting the rule book cos their aint one and one day when your fuckin about you'll scare yourself!
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Post by Citrus Boy » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:42 pm

yeah, benga's workflow is quick and suprisingly similar to myself except my vers of logic 5.5 just crashes the whole pc when i try to assign asio as the audio driver (anyone got a fix for this?) so I keep it in FL, sometimes use FL as a rewire host to do remixes for peeps that use reason.

Anyone just moved from fl7 to fl8 recently? aint the audio/pattern playlist switch around confusing shitfuck?

plastic, I can't believe your still using 3.56!!

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Post by bscorpio » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:47 pm

thanks for the upload, insightful.
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Post by jade_monkey » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:08 pm

Borg wrote:plastic, I can't believe your still using 3.56!!
I even know people, who release on Rephlex and use FL 3.5

And i personally think, that Benga's productions suck big time. He barely uses more then four channels, his sounds are really basic and his tracks sound sterile. Can't understand the hype around him at all.

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Re: He's a G

Post by fiziks » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:52 pm

samthedodgeman wrote:Benga Benga Benga he is a G!
The reason his tunes are successful, in my opinion is because they are simple. Good melodies, catchy hooks and big sounding very rhythmic orientated beats. You dont need the latest Sequencer to help out! Bengas got a talent, thats all you need...

The only reason i would be interested in getting the PC logic is to learn the basics of the software without having to spend £500 + on a mac. How much improvements have been made since the PC version!?
Just get your hackintosh on. Retail version of Logic 8 works great on Leopard. Like setspeed said, there are loads of improvements. I still use Fat EQ but the other eq's are nice too especially for isolating. Once you adjust to the new workflow it's great. Plus, 5.5 on the pc can't utilize all the new multi-core processors and over 1 or 2 gigs of memory. That said, you can obviously still get your freak on with it. The ES2 preset thing is wacked though because the ES2 fucking owns. Since it's nearly impossible to get a legit version of 5.5 your stuck with the malfunctioning ES2 on the cracked version.

Check out insanelymac.com for tips on how to get OSX running on your PC. Even with legit straight from apple copies of Leopard.

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