more brilliant than the sun....

juliun_c90 · Post by **juliun_c90** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:36 am

...Truly a revolution in sonic fiction. The jump off point for a branching timeline in the multidimensional musicverse...

the obvious downside to all this cultural masturbation being it tends to get very pretentious very quickly.

epithet · Post by **epithet** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:48 am

Allow pretension. It is fiction afterall. Objects and people made real by word alone. Dont believe the type.

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:02 am

wow

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:06 am

epithet wrote: Nice one man. In reading that, i think in dubstep he would have loved the progression of the breakbeat continuum into breakstep as opposed to the de evolution of it into half step. One is the accelerated velocity into the unknown the other a decelerated step back to the past via the much explored dubsonics.

I posted that same link in that Kode9 thread last week and you then proceeded to label the CCRU as 'intellectual elitism'.

In response to your thoery though, I think genre categories are largely irrelevant (especially in this case). The conception of what could be done with the speeds and rhythms in dance music that half-step explored was one of the most interesting and different musical projects in the last decade.

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:11 am

Parson wrote:wondering if any of you are familiar with douglas rushkoff though. feelin that dude a lot.

yes! cyberia is an excellent piece of work

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:22 am

he is definitely either chris morris or dubmugga.

epithet · Post by **epithet** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:22 am

stanton wrote:I posted that same link in that Kode9 thread last week and you then proceeded to label the CCRU as 'intellectual elitism'.

Sorry stanton i must have missed it. Regarding 'intellectual elitism', I wasn't referring to CCRU per se, more high end western philosophy in general. It's the new racism. Ayn rand anyone ?

Agreed halfstep is/was interesting just too easily cloned and as we all know clones dont have souls

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:21 am

epithet wrote: Sorry stanton i must have missed it. Regarding 'intellectual elitism', I wasn't referring to CCRU per se, more high end western philosophy in general. It's the new racism. Ayn rand anyone ?

Putting Ayn Rand in the same boat as Eushun, Deleuze, Said is like putting Mao in the same boat as Lao Tze because they're both from 'The East' and they both had philosophies. I don't think most of the thinkers people have mentioned in these threads can be thought of intellectually elitist, rather the opposite.

epithet wrote: Agreed halfstep is/was interesting just too easily cloned and as we all know clones dont have souls

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:33 am

UFO over easy wrote:he is definitely either chris morris or dubmugga.

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=45315

epithet · Post by **epithet** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:03 am

stanton wrote:putting Mao in the same boat as Lao Tze because they're both from 'The East' and they both had philosophies.

I'd put them in the same boat and hide a recording device to hear what was said. Damn sure it would be interesting. Given the time and cultural differences between mao and lao tze does make it harder to compare philosophies. Rand and deleuze might not be so hard. Fast forward 100 yrs and imagine a compendium on 20th century philosophy and i'm sure you'd find them in the same boat. If only under the western capitalist banner.

*decibella~~ · Post by *decibella~~ » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:28 am

AJANTIS! BIG UP YO SELF BUVVAA

thanks alot for the heads up on this - jus read the first few pages on Amazon and totally gripped!

cannot wait to bury my head in this one...

x x x

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:30 am

epithet wrote:Fast forward 100 yrs and imagine a compendium on 20th century philosophy and i'm sure you'd find them in the same boat. If only under the western capitalist banner.

Only if Žižek wrote the compendium.

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:52 pm

Fractal wrote:
Parson wrote:wondering if any of you are familiar with douglas rushkoff though. feelin that dude a lot.
yes! cyberia is an excellent piece of work

i've only read exit strategy, the ecstasy club, and some assorted essays.

will def need to check cyberia

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:59 pm

started reading a bit a of this after seeing this thread and popping down the road to my uni library. l ooks really good, love some of his explanations of what the music means to him, not sure i can get past the 'newspeak' he uses though. 'Futurhythmachinery' doesn't read easy with me.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:17 pm

spooKs wrote:started reading a bit a of this after seeing this thread and popping down the road to my uni library. l ooks really good, love some of his explanations of what the music means to him, not sure i can get past the 'newspeak' he uses though. 'Futurhythmachinery' doesn't read easy with me.

for me the language is what makes it great.

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:39 pm

Just took it out from the library aswell. Tbh lots of it does go over my head, I ain't gonna lie, but I like the fact i'm gonna have to re-read it.

erik brown · Post by **erik brown** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:51 am

Great thread. I found these links recently - only two chapters scanned and posted online as PDFs. I've been hunting a decent-priced used copy in the meantime. It would be great to see a re-press and new introduction/chapter, etc. with 10-year hindsight. (credit to Wayne Marshall for PDFs.)

Inner Spatializing the Song

http://www.courses.dce.harvard.edu/%7Em ... -space.pdf

Mixadelic Universe

http://www.courses.dce.harvard.edu/%7Em ... adelic.pdf

".......I was in this long, dark tunnel with a very bright light at the end....so brilliant, it was more brilliant than the sun."

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:05 pm

http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/004807.html

brief history of the ccru

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:54 am

Slightly irrelevant: I like how the word "Deleuzian" is like a crazy way of sayign "delusion"

boomnoise wrote:
spooKs wrote:started reading a bit a of this after seeing this thread and popping down the road to my uni library. l ooks really good, love some of his explanations of what the music means to him, not sure i can get past the 'newspeak' he uses though. 'Futurhythmachinery' doesn't read easy with me.
for me the language is what makes it great.

i need to read it before passing judgment evidently

Chunkie, in another thread, wrote:re-issue £10, be quick mate!!

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:12 am

spooKs wrote:
Chunkie, in another thread, wrote:re-issue £10, be quick mate!!

Where where where!!!??

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