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Post by blackdown » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:54 pm

Keysound Recordings, Rinse FM, http://www.blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com, sub, edge, bars, groove, swing...

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Post by quietmouse » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:56 pm

quality work as always :)

feeling the wonk lately... but i'm also wondering what's next!

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Post by bunzer0 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:29 pm

had a nice read ! Thanx Blackdown !

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Post by -blade- » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:39 pm

Blackdown you are a legend

without you it was almost impossible in the past, for people like me to get any good info about this music....

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Post by frebentos » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:41 pm

excellent read...

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Post by powerpill » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:42 pm

pleasant read. 'wonk'

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Post by epithet » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:45 pm

nice :W:

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Post by rekordah » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:11 pm

Wonky is me.

Next FWD at The End looking tasty too, Martyn 2 hour set :o
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Post by pete_bubonic » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:29 pm

All about the wonk :D

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Post by corpsey » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:37 pm

Lineup for next FWD at end is great, shame it's at the End really...

I've definitely noticed those synths cropping up everywhere. One thing I do wonder is if a lot of the music in this 'wonky' style is a bit too disposable. A couple of things I've heard have been very exciting to listen to the first time, what with the synths being so fucked up and everything, but haven't stood up to repeated plays. Naming no names.

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Post by jay » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:18 pm

Corpsey wrote:Lineup for next FWD at end is great, shame it's at the End really...

I've definitely noticed those synths cropping up everywhere. One thing I do wonder is if a lot of the music in this 'wonky' style is a bit too disposable. A couple of things I've heard have been very exciting to listen to the first time, what with the synths being so fucked up and everything, but haven't stood up to repeated plays. Naming no names.
i wonder the exact same thing about the dubstep that has lead us to this point... if you look at some of the producers named in the column, sonically they are miles ahead of the rest... particularly rustie. i honestly believe the records martin mentioned have too much to offer in terms music and texture. this column is what i have been waiting for along time and its not just because we are mentioned, everyone in that column is what im feeling at the moment and im glad it has been acknowledged.



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Post by joe muggs » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:26 pm

Respect the wonk!

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Post by blackdown » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:38 pm

bunch of wonkers the lot of you ;)
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Post by jah pat » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:42 pm

Yes, nice read as always..... 8)

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Post by jah wobble » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:27 pm

a lot of this stuff harkens back to madlib, prefuse, dabrye and some of that other ghostly/eastern developments sound. wonder what those dudes think of these guys...
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Post by prisoner » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:36 pm

jay wrote:everyone in that column is what im feeling at the moment and im glad it has been acknowledged.
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Post by sand leaper » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:37 pm

I guess Rustie was destined to end up remixing a tune produced by Rodney 'Darkchild' Jerkins, who pretty much preceded the "wonk" hype by about 5 years when he produced this.

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Post by corpsey » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:45 pm

jay wrote:
Corpsey wrote:Lineup for next FWD at end is great, shame it's at the End really...

I've definitely noticed those synths cropping up everywhere. One thing I do wonder is if a lot of the music in this 'wonky' style is a bit too disposable. A couple of things I've heard have been very exciting to listen to the first time, what with the synths being so fucked up and everything, but haven't stood up to repeated plays. Naming no names.
i wonder the exact same thing about the dubstep that has lead us to this point... if you look at some of the producers named in the column, sonically they are miles ahead of the rest... particularly rustie. i honestly believe the records martin mentioned have too much to offer in terms music and texture. this column is what i have been waiting for along time and its not just because we are mentioned, everyone in that column is what im feeling at the moment and im glad it has been acknowledged.



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I suppose to me a lot of this stuff feels very poppy (in a strange way) and plastic, but as you say there is hidden depths to it too. For example, outside of a club (tellingly I suppose) I'm already quite bored of the riff from 'Please' but then the riff isn't what makes the tune so much as the drums and sub underneath, and the developing synths about halfway through.

I think that's the problem with synth riffs they tend towards being very catchy and thus ultimately quite irritating. See Clipz/Pendulum in DNB. I suppose the synths used in tunes by those two are much less unstable though...

Having said that I do like a lot of the stuff martin highlights and certainly find it quite refreshing compared to a lot of dubstep. Where does the recent dubstep obsession with mid-range robotic synths fit into this, by the way? Is 'Spongebob' wonky? I can't think of many better words for that synth, except perhaps 'insane'.

My favourite part of seeing Kode 9 at Bloc was when he dropped in the pb.synth from GZA's '5th Chamber' for about ten seconds. Now there's an example of a tune that uses one of those synths sparingly but effectively. I see Dilla and Madlib mentioned a lot in connection with this wonky stuff (and Timbaland?), I suppose RZA and Dre (Deez Nuts) could have a hand in it too...

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Post by prisoner » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:54 pm

wasn't "wonky" used to describe tunes like artwork's 'red' back when it came out (along with a ton of other proto-dubstep tunes)?

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Post by ufo over easy » Thu May 01, 2008 1:32 pm

Corpsey wrote:My favourite part of seeing Kode 9 at Bloc was when he dropped in the pb.synth from GZA's '5th Chamber' for about ten seconds. Now there's an example of a tune that uses one of those synths sparingly but effectively.
Yeah, I agree. Some stuff sounds a bit self-consciously wacky, and that's the stuff that's going to date badly I think. All about the groove, if the wonkiness adds to it, compliments it, great. Lots of exciting music around atm :)

Some great mainstream crossover going on as well - for example Rustie played the instrumental of that Rich Harrison produced Usher tune at fwd>> the other day. So sick!! Those synths and raw drums are just devastating.. the Teriyaki Boys and Pharrell thing is awesome as well.
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