Dubplates

bruno belluomini · Post by **bruno belluomini** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:59 am

There are everlasting vinyl dubplates and acetate dubplates, right? Are there differences in quality between them? Anyone knows?

felis · Post by **felis** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:27 pm

acetate are louder to start with but that fades after they've been played a few times . vinyl is'nt quite as loud but the quality is constant . i guess it's all down to what you want out of them , how much you want to spend and your personal prefference .
i got a couple of vinyl 10" cut the other week at the 'carvery' (carverycuts.com) in london and they are all good (a little quieter than regular 12") , i chose those because i wanted something that would last .

bruno belluomini · Post by **bruno belluomini** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:51 pm

FELIS wrote:acetate are louder to start with but that fades after they've been played a few times . vinyl is'nt quite as loud but the quality is constant . i guess it's all down to what you want out of them , how much you want to spend and your personal prefference .
i got a couple of vinyl 10" cut the other week at the 'carvery' (carverycuts.com) in london and they are all good (a little quieter than regular 12") , i chose those because i wanted something that would last .

Thanks mate! I also cut a dub with them some months ago... I liked the result...

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:17 pm

acetate finally will run down to nothing. there is a place in bristol that do dubs to last as long as vynal though.4got the name of the place...

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:56 pm

RANDOM TRIO wrote:acetate finally will run down to nothing. there is a place in bristol that do dubs to last as long as vynal though.4got the name of the place...

Dubstudio. I got a 10" plate cut there and was really pleased with the result.

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:00 pm

Pangaea wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote:acetate finally will run down to nothing. there is a place in bristol that do dubs to last as long as vynal though.4got the name of the place...
Dubstudio. I got a 10" plate cut there and was really pleased with the result.

oh yeh?
u can press one or two of ur best tracks and not have to shed out about a g for 500 then?

gangsta

have u got the website or anything for them?
cheers

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:13 pm

ozols man wrote:
Pangaea wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote:acetate finally will run down to nothing. there is a place in bristol that do dubs to last as long as vynal though.4got the name of the place...
Dubstudio. I got a 10" plate cut there and was really pleased with the result.
oh yeh?
u can press one or two of ur best tracks and not have to shed out about a g for 500 then?

gangsta

have u got the website or anything for them?
cheers

Yeah, it's basically all about making one-off cuts instead of printing up hundreds of copies of a record. Dubstep is all about the dubplates

Dubstudio

But there are other places that offer this service...For example, Transition studios are infamous for mastering and cutting plates for Mystikz, Loefah, Skream, Youngsta...pretty much all the London-based producers and DJs by the look of it.

bruno belluomini · Post by **bruno belluomini** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:23 pm

Transition cut everlasting dubs? Anyone knows?

2000f · Post by **2000f** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:49 am

A question: how come the big name DJs play acetates instead of CD-R´s?

crazeebo · Post by **crazeebo** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:00 am

i operate a vinylcutter www.unicut.biz its the same as the carvery thing

i dont think acetate can be cut louder than vinyl........i havent compared tho (due to incredible high acetate prices;-) there is a physical level limit on both medias..+12dbs. i just depends on how the music is mixed/mastered.some overdistorted d+b tune will always sound louder than any thing else....i've cut a few d+b tunes that can stand up to official releases levelwise!

there is a slight but distinct soundcolor difference from acetate to vinyl:

vinyl has a slightly boomy (60-100hertz) sound
acetate has a middley (500-700hertz) character

this of course only being perception/hearing differences in an 1 to 1 comparison. i cut with a flat response.......whats coming in goes out, just be careful with the bass,hahaha

my decision for buying a vinyl recorder was so that i can offer a service for djs to check out their own tunes in clubsystems for a realtively low price. and yes it IS scratchable......

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:31 am

2000F wrote:A question: how come the big name DJs play acetates instead of CD-R´s?

its called keeping it real!

2000f · Post by **2000f** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:48 am

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Well, I thought so.

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:57 am

actually i wanna raise this question.. why do djs cut acetate dubplates if vinyl ones last a squillion years longer?
isit cheaper?
cheers

deepsix · Post by **deepsix** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:38 am

cheaper to do one offs than to set up to press 500 pieces of vinyl. By a factor of 10-20 X at least.

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:43 am

deepsix wrote:cheaper to do one offs than to set up to press 500 pieces of vinyl. By a factor of 10-20 X at least.

nah nah, im talking about dubplates. why would someone press 1 acetate dubplate as oppose to 1 of these illusive vinyl dubplates which have been mentioned on the thread?
cheers

sinewave · Post by **sinewave** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:45 am

i think using acetates is a good way to test reaction of a track, gives a producer a chance to give it to a dj to perform, generate responce and the like and maybe not to get into the hands of potential bootleggers.

2000f · Post by **2000f** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:52 am

I agree, but a lot of the soundsystems and bigger clubs feature CD players (eg. CDJ-1000´s) so why not play CD-R instead?

sinewave · Post by **sinewave** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:56 am

i'd say the most favourable tools for a dj are still decks and vinyl. and generally speaking, vinyl gives a much warmer sound due to its dynamic range as apposed to cd. but i doubt this is the reason most people chose not to hand out cd-r's.

crazeebo · Post by **crazeebo** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:59 am

ozols man wrote:actually i wanna raise this question.. why do djs cut acetate dubplates if vinyl ones last a squillion years longer?
isit cheaper?
cheers

acetate blanks are way more expensive!!!! actually in the range of 1 to 10 and i can cut you 12/10/7 and wait for it 5 inches of black vinyl gold....

because of the mastering process and the use of the cutter you'll want some money for it,the prices for acetate compared to vinyl are a tad higher. as for the longevity question......its down to keeping it real

crazeebo · Post by **crazeebo** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:04 pm

sinewave wrote:and generally speaking, vinyl gives a much warmer sound due to its dynamic range as apposed to cd. but i doubt this is the reason most people chose not to hand out cd-r's.

i think this is a myth, coz not so many clubs have extensive amplification headroom to actually hear that much of a difference. you can make cds sound warm, no problem.....

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