Dubtechno or technodub ?

epithet · Post by **epithet** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:00 am

either or but i've been seeing this word bandied about a bit lately, specifically in regard to 2562's aerial album, of which i see voiceovered promos have been leaked already.

Am keen to check out more of this style which from what little i have heard reminds me of longtime dubhouse practitioners Pitch Black from NZ.

http://www.myspace.com/pitchblacknz

please, any recommendations/links/mixes/tunes/labels gratefully accepted.

ory · Post by **ory** » Wed May 14, 2008 7:20 am

Basic Channel and related labels created it, mastered it and eventually killed it. Most everything else is a poor version of what Moritz and Mark were doing in the early-mid 90s. Except maybe Convextion...

electric eliminator · Post by **electric eliminator** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:05 am

Bandulu get almost no props when it comes to these type of discussions.They were the real innovators if you ask me, and from London, really surprising they arent mentioned more on here.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Bandulu

ory · Post by **ory** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:08 am

I wouldn't really call Bandulu dub techno. Their remix of Slowdive is amazing though.

EDIT: Well this one kinda is, but in a different way from Basic Channel.

http://www.discogs.com/release/48047

I used to mix this with Elemental - Soul Fire.

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:08 am

electric eliminator wrote:Bandulu get almost no props when it comes to these type of discussions.They were the real innovators if you ask me, and from London, really surprising they arent mentioned more on here.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Bandulu

WORD. Bandulu were properly varied too. I think Basic Channel get over hyped. They didn't own the sound that's for sure. And now people like Echospace/Deepchord are staking their own claim to the territory.

datura · Post by **datura** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:14 am

Substance & Vainqueur

jaggi · Post by **jaggi** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:05 am

Joe Muggs wrote: Echospace/Deepchord

I really enjoy their music.

Also check Claro Intelecto - Metanarrative

http://www.discogs.com/release/1243891

Deep dub techno styles....

Mary Anne picked one of the tunes off that album for her upcoming Evangeline compilation.

rob_booth · Post by **rob_booth** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:47 am

Yeah for me its always Basic Channel.

Nu-skool dub-techno

90% of the 'Modern Love' catalogue

echocord

Echospace [detroit]

certain releases on ~scape

Murmur's new album ...masterpiece

Substance & Vainqueur

and what ever seems to be album/single of the week these days on boomkat

james fox · Post by **james fox** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:53 am

scape records = win

epithet · Post by **epithet** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:53 am

Claro intelecto looks good. Got an electro ep of his from a few years ago that wasn't bad but to be honest, that basic channel stuff sounds a bit dated.

frebentos · Post by **frebentos** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:55 am

datura wrote:Substance & Vainqueur

WURD!

daggus · Post by **daggus** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:06 pm

frebentos wrote:
datura wrote:Substance & Vainqueur
WURD!

seconded

they played glasgow couple weeks back. cudn't actually get anyone to come with me tho

just went myself worth it

rob_booth · Post by **rob_booth** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:07 pm

epithet wrote:Claro intelecto looks good. Got an electro ep of his from a few years ago that wasn't bad but to be honest, that basic channel stuff sounds a bit dated.

there are 09 remasters doing the rounds ... those are over 10 yrs old though.

Try 'Model 500'

runner · Post by **runner** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:25 pm

basically Basic Channel/Burial Mix/Rhythm n sound/etc.
the M Series from as far back as 92
the Vainquer & Substance acronyms from the same family

the Tikkiman Showcase seminal LP that came out at the end of the last decade

SCION and THAT tresor white CD mix from 2000

in www.synch.gr this year we have dubstep for the first time 'sandwiching' Moritz Von Oswald, one half of Maurizio. Line up goes like this Peverelist/Headhunter/Moritz V.O./Pinch

goes to show where the influences come and go..

stormfield · Post by **stormfield** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:32 pm

liking the Shackleton remix of Pole's Achterbahn

daggus · Post by **daggus** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:38 pm

Runner wrote: in www.synch.gr this year we have dubstep for the first time 'sandwiching' Moritz Von Oswald, one half of Maurizio. Line up goes like this Peverelist/Headhunter/Moritz V.O./Pinch

wish i'd known about this sooner might have been able to go

nakedlunch · Post by **nakedlunch** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:39 pm

Ory wrote: Most everything else is a poor version of what Moritz and Mark were doing in the early-mid 90s. Except maybe Convextion...

I have to disagree with this statment .I buy tones of dubtechno on vinyl .. Just pick up anything by andy stott , ub313 , cv313 , deepchord , quantec , mike huckaby , carlo intelecto , mlz , labels like echospace , echochord , modern love , styrax leaves , cache and you can hear the same sound executed with perfection

for anyone interested here is a 1hr mix I done of new(ish) dubtechno

http://www.zshare.net/audio/10757388d1772083/

Andy Stott - Handle With Care - Modern Love
Claro Intelecto - Rise - Modern Love
Pacou - All It Takes (Mike Huckaby SYNTH Remix) - Cache Records
Simian Mobile Disco - Hustler (Shackleton Remix) - Wichita
Ricardo Villalobos - Fizheuer Zieheuer Pt. 2 - playhouse
Andy Stott - See In Me - Modern Love
Brendon Moeller - Dreadmill - EchoCord
Sebbo - Watamu Beach (Moritz von Oswald Rework) - Desolat
Quantec - Lush - EchoCord
Mike Huckaby & Pacou - Sessions - Cache Records
Rhythm & Sound - Outward - Rhythm & Sound

[b]racket · Post by **[b]racket** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:46 pm

electric eliminator wrote:Bandulu get almost no props when it comes to these type of discussions.They were the real innovators if you ask me, and from London, really surprising they arent mentioned more on here.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Bandulu

Respect.

Bandulu were immense. Their lives sets were so good...

epithet · Post by **epithet** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:53 pm

nakedlunch wrote:
for anyone interested here is a 1hr mix I done of new(ish) dubtechno

http://www.zshare.net/audio/10757388d1772083/

choice post and cheers for the mix.

juliun_c90 · Post by **juliun_c90** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:22 pm

[b]racket wrote:
electric eliminator wrote:Bandulu get almost no props when it comes to these type of discussions.They were the real innovators if you ask me, and from London, really surprising they arent mentioned more on here.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Bandulu
Respect.

Bandulu were immense. Their lives sets were so good...

they were great. they used to play megadog back in the day before 'megadog' became a biword for 'stinking crusty psy-toss'. also caught them do a storming daytime set at a tribal gathering (the year kraftwerk played i think). they brought a real soundsystem attitude to the dance and hyped the crowd with a bit of toasting and stuff. really wicked and largely unheard of approach in techno at that time.

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