Dubtechno or technodub ?

ory · Post by **ory** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:46 am

A Man Called Dave wrote:Ain't Tech-Step a better name or is that in use for something else?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techstep

sand leaper · Post by **sand leaper** » Thu May 15, 2008 9:33 am

nakedlunch wrote: They split up and both artists are still making "dubtechno" under their solo names
http://www.discogs.com/release/1277283 http://www.discogs.com/release/734339

That Tony Allen-tune is a disco-influenced deep house/downtempo-tune, and Watabu Beach just happens to be a rework of Q 1.2, which BC made more than 10 years ago. You don't see BC making this stuff anymore...

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF302421-01-01-02.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF298746-01-02-01.mp3

...because they've been there and done that.

nakedlunch · Post by **nakedlunch** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:03 am

Sand Leaper wrote:
nakedlunch wrote: They split up and both artists are still making "dubtechno" under their solo names
http://www.discogs.com/release/1277283 http://www.discogs.com/release/734339
That Tony Allen-tune is a disco-influenced deep house/downtempo-tune, and Watabu Beach just happens to be a rework of Q 1.2, which BC made more than 10 years ago. You don't see BC making this stuff anymore...

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF302421-01-01-02.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF298746-01-02-01.mp3

...because they've been there and done that.

Apples and oranges

nakedlunch · Post by **nakedlunch** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:10 am

Sand Leaper wrote: just happens to be a rework of Q 1.2

Your hearing things, check again

jonnyrebel · Post by **jonnyrebel** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:13 am

Welcome to the techno snobbery thread... let me comb my richie hawtin hairstyle and il be right with you.

nakedlunch · Post by **nakedlunch** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:20 am

Jonnyrebel wrote:Welcome to the techno snobbery thread... let me comb my richie hawtin hairstyle and il be right with you.

Make sure you get the parting right or we will ignore you

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:21 am

nakedlunch wrote:
Jonnyrebel wrote:Welcome to the techno snobbery thread... let me comb my richie hawtin hairstyle and il be right with you.
Make sure you get the parting right or we will ignore you

It's all about how you knot your scarf, blud.

nakedlunch · Post by **nakedlunch** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:25 am

Joe Muggs wrote:
nakedlunch wrote:
Jonnyrebel wrote:Welcome to the techno snobbery thread... let me comb my richie hawtin hairstyle and il be right with you.
Make sure you get the parting right or we will ignore you
It's all about how you knot your scarf, blud.

Scarf in july ftw

jonnyrebel · Post by **jonnyrebel** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:34 am

Joe Muggs wrote:
nakedlunch wrote:
Jonnyrebel wrote:Welcome to the techno snobbery thread... let me comb my richie hawtin hairstyle and il be right with you.
Make sure you get the parting right or we will ignore you
It's all about how you knot your scarf, blud.

they should put a techno room downstairs at rock city, thatd sort the men from the boys... i mean when did it become about scarves and trilbees and those little waste coats?!!

nakedlunch · Post by **nakedlunch** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:40 am

Jonnyrebel wrote: scarves and trilbees and those little waste coats?!!

I have only seen the scarfs in action , but no trilbies or waistcoats

I have noticed lately that dubstep party's have started to look like a vice magazine party

primate · Post by **primate** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:18 am

oh god.

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:22 am

primate wrote:dubtechno is established as something else, like the modern love or BC releases. the latest tectonic, skull disco, applepips releases are more like a deep dubstep or technostep or some dumb phrase. it's getting increasingly difficult for me to explain to people exactly what I mean when i say i listen to dubstep. I really only like this crossover sound but people always think i mean rusko etc. nothing wrong with the brockout sound, but that's not what I like.

it's like saying you listen to hiphop when you mean flying lotus or dabrye not biggie and tupac.

well yes.. this is true..

but most of the times the respective sounds wouldn't make sense without one another. especially in that hip hop example you gave - both flylo and dabrye are heads, they rep it all. flylo, wutang, biggie, dilla, whatever, it all ties in and it's all valuable. I think that's true in techno too, and dubstep. How dry would it be just to listen to deepchord all day long, with nothing to spark it against. It's all context blud etc. Coki and Peverelist are equally deep in different ways, and provide a vital contrast in a scene which, at the moment at least, covers a vast amount of musical territory without regressing into factions - that's one of the things that's still exciting about it.

nakedlunch · Post by **nakedlunch** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:36 am

UFO over easy wrote: without regressing into factions - that's one of the things that's still exciting about it.

That is the main problem with dubtechno , the choice is limited . ,t does all sound the same so my collection is big but consists of about 15 artists/labels . Where as if you look back to the beginnings of the genre it had a lot more people like carl craig for example dipping in to it .But after nearly 20 years new producers with new ideas are far and few between . maybe this is the future for most music genres

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:41 am

cheer up mick

i'd like to hear more stuff like that new claro one Rise

dirty, not overtly dubby, percussive jacking-but-still-deep styles

the new album kind of sums up why I lost interest a little bit but that tune rekindled my interest in what modern love are pushing

primate · Post by **primate** » Thu May 15, 2008 12:22 pm

@ufo

yeah, i mean i love hiphop from it's grass roots. but i don't like it all. the problem is when the stuff that everyone else recognises isn't anything like what you're into. even if it's all connected.

i've stopped trying to explain what i like to people who don't listen to the same music as myself. end up saying something like this,

"it's like a 2-step garage swing coupled with dub and techno, with references to jungle (but not drum and bass). kind of a new dancehall soundsystem but allowing for space? ya get meh? closer to 140bpm? centered on bass production?"

mostly people glaze over about half way through... i just need a term for my own, or an mp3 player at all times in order to play examples to people!

altitude · Post by **altitude** » Thu May 15, 2008 12:23 pm

http://substep.com/2008/02/08/substep-m ... lberforce/

recommend this for some dubtechno action.

topdollar

osk · Post by **osk** » Thu May 15, 2008 12:34 pm

nakedlunch wrote:
UFO over easy wrote: without regressing into factions - that's one of the things that's still exciting about it.
That is the main problem with dubtechno , the choice is limited . ,t does all sound the same so my collection is big but consists of about 15 artists/labels . Where as if you look back to the beginnings of the genre it had a lot more people like carl craig for example dipping in to it .But after nearly 20 years new producers with new ideas are far and few between . maybe this is the future for most music genres

Yes. I would agree with this completely. I love all this shit; only this morning on the tube I was listening to some Deepchord track that came up on shuffle and, if I was a girl, I'd have gone moist. That shit hits me where it hurts. But there's also a lot of crap. My concern is that with all this kind of stuff coming through in dubstep that it will end up being bastardised. The important thing for me is that you take that influence and impart on it your own style, your own feeling, so it becomes something new.

You could say Shackleton has that feel about him; but he is unmistakably Shackleton. A lot of Peverelist tunes aren't necessarily ingrained in that dub techno sound, but when they are, again, you can tell it's him. Martyn's Broken was the utlimate example - those thick chords, the atmosphere, but with that vintage Martyn jiggle and funk. Sublime.

james fox · Post by **james fox** » Thu May 15, 2008 12:45 pm

nakedlunch wrote:
Jonnyrebel wrote: scarves and trilbees and those little waste coats?!!
I have only seen the scarfs in action , but no trilbies or waistcoats I have noticed lately that dubstep party's have started to look like a vice magazine party

bwahahaha

massive fail.

splang · Post by **splang** » Thu May 15, 2008 3:14 pm

primate wrote:dubtechno is established as something else, like the modern love or BC releases. the latest tectonic, skull disco, applepips releases are more like a deep dubstep or technostep or some dumb phrase. it's getting increasingly difficult for me to explain to people exactly what I mean when i say i listen to dubstep. I really only like this crossover sound but people always think i mean rusko etc. nothing wrong with the brockout sound, but that's not what I like.

.. yeah, same here .. although i tend to go with the tagline "dub-tech-step", for it sufficiently covers all of the features in the sound in the order in which my brain processes them

names are silly though

primate · Post by **primate** » Fri May 16, 2008 9:33 am

steptec?

Dubtechno or technodub ?

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