best way to make decent bass in logic express 7 ?

[spirals]

anybody got any tips for making bass in logic?

been trying for time but everything is either way too low or crappy sounding.

can anybody send me some .cst's? please!

[shonky]

If you can be a bit more specific, about what you're looking to do I might be able to help.

ES1 is handy for really low subs but you need to make sure that you set it to 2 voices to avoid clicks, and then edit around that to make sure that the notes don't overlap (notice from your avatar that you've probably read that post anyway). Put a low cut at about 20-30Hz to remove too much boominess, this should keep the low levels intact but stop them swamping the mix.

What I did that I got quite good results from, is taking a simple sine/square wave, low pass filter it, and then add distortion, more filters, and then when it sounds good, record a couple of octaves of notes, cut the notes up and then reload them into the EXS24 as multisamples, which you can then modify more, add controllers, lfo's etc. The default sine wave option (no preset) in the exs24 is also quite handy for adding sub to your bass part.

Generally use the emulator x, so I don't use the native logic synths that often, so I know what you mean about them not sounding that hot. The ES2 looks like it would be incredibly useful, but takes some programming to get the right sounds, but you could do worse than reset that and then tinker about until you get something useful. Low sine, square (low passed) an octave above that and then use any of the various waveshapes to get a distinctive sound above that.

[batfink]

If you can be a bit more specific, about what you're looking to do I might be able to help.

ES1 is handy for really low subs but you need to make sure that you set it to 2 voices to avoid clicks, and then edit around that to make sure that the notes don't overlap (notice from your avatar that you've probably read that post anyway). Put a low cut at about 20-30Hz to remove too much boominess, this should keep the low levels intact but stop them swamping the mix.
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you want to REMOVE 20/30hz? surely not!

id be careful boosting round that area for sure but is it really worth cutting the really deep bass for dubstep?

[forensix (mcr)]

you want to REMOVE 20/30hz? surely not!

id be careful boosting round that area for sure but is it really worth cutting the really deep bass for dubstep?

cutting really deep bass that yuo cant hear and takes up headroom is a really good idea

[batfink]

you want to REMOVE 20/30hz? surely not!

id be careful boosting round that area for sure but is it really worth cutting the really deep bass for dubstep?

cutting really deep bass that yuo cant hear and takes up headroom is a really good idea

but since dubstep is about weight , ie bass you feel then surely chopping off the super deep 20/30hz rumble is stupid. Im pretty sure that goat stare goes down to just above 20hz......

remove 20/30hz from a loefah tune and you'll splang half the weight no?

[shonky]

you want to REMOVE 20/30hz? surely not!

id be careful boosting round that area for sure but is it really worth cutting the really deep bass for dubstep?

cutting really deep bass that yuo cant hear and takes up headroom is a really good idea

but since dubstep is about weight , ie bass you feel then surely chopping off the super deep 20/30hz rumble is stupid. Im pretty sure that goat stare goes down to just above 20hz......

remove 20/30hz from a loefah tune and you'll splang half the weight no?

Personally speaking, if you want to go for the really heavy bass, boost the bit below your kick (say 100hz to down to about 30Hz), but you'll need to cut it elsewhere in the mix at about 20hz as this isn't really useful. The original question was about logic's onboard synths, and the es1 can get a bit silly towards the low end, if you're really after fucking your monitors.