Drum n bass or Dubstep

fixation · Post by **fixation** » Wed May 28, 2008 5:59 pm

Smokey wrote:Dupstep has to be my choice. I get bored of DnB pretty quickly. But like most genres theres good and bad tunes. Ive gotta admit its the bass in dubstep that gets me

spot on

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Wed May 28, 2008 6:17 pm

thread turned out better than i expected. some ppl got a pretty healthy attitude.

and yeah, obviously i was deliberately shit-stirring with my first post, but seriously, do ppl really sit down and say "this week I am mostly making dubstep". cant imagine it. i sit down to make music. and then it is whatever it is...if u decide to make a genre u r deciding to follow whats gone b4. not a good start

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed May 28, 2008 6:24 pm

yea defo, you will mos def further your production skills by striving to produce more than one genre your interested in, and spending time away from dubstep for example to try your hand at dnb and flitting between the two whenever the mood takes you will help the fresh ideas to flow

breaksbaron · Post by **breaksbaron** » Wed May 28, 2008 8:10 pm

I prefer DnB, the ultimate in production quality. Dubstep is cool but liked it more 4 years ago.

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed May 28, 2008 8:15 pm

BREAKSBARON wrote:DnB, the ultimate in production quality

i have to agree with that

integrated grime unit · Post by **integrated grime unit** » Wed May 28, 2008 10:12 pm

Glitch-hop. Wompy, glitchy dirty ass hip-hop.
Sometimes we like to call it Lazerbass.
That's the tip I've been on for a couple years now.
Kinda like the 92BPM break in alot of D&B tunes.
Only that's the whole set. Pretty sweet shit.

somejerk · Post by **somejerk** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:26 pm

dnb: evol intent, will miles, style control, kjell, fanu, breakage, 0=0, george young, stereotype, amit, lynk, bailey, tc, kubiks + lomax, young ax, noisia, teebee, calyx......................so many different styles out there right now, pushing the boundaries of that tempo.

i agree there is a LOT of bullshit out there dubstep and dnb wise but as technology becomes more accessible and easier to use, the amount of music being produced will as well. and now with the ease of spread via the internet, there is garbage everywhere.

out of everyone on my list, if you've never heard of kjell, george young or young ax, do yourself a favor and find out.

edwin katzer · Post by **edwin katzer** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:32 pm

Battle Gong wrote:thread turned out better than i expected. some ppl got a pretty healthy attitude.

and yeah, obviously i was deliberately shit-stirring with my first post, but seriously, do ppl really sit down and say "this week I am mostly making dubstep". cant imagine it. i sit down to make music. and then it is whatever it is...if u decide to make a genre u r deciding to follow whats gone b4. not a good start

hmm well, have to disagree slightly, while I am completely opposed to generic music which happens easily when confining oneself to one genre, I have to say you have to know the rules of a genre before you can ignore them, i.e. break the rules thus fucking with the expectations of the listener in a good way,..
So in this sense sometimes people sit down and say, well today I'm a gonna do a massive dubstep toon...
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Obviously you cannot decide not to follow what has been done before except in a conscious effort to ignore scales to the extent of tuning and rhytms to the extent of complete and utter randomness, but I think even that has been done before

I agree however that simply copying something is only a method for learning the tools of the trade, not actually an exhibition of a craft, if you catch my drift

brucifer · Post by **brucifer** » Fri May 30, 2008 2:15 pm

darkmatterUK wrote:
Brucifer wrote:The scene seems really stagnent now days compared. Must admit, Dylan, Limewire ect are producing wicked tracks still.
mate, if you listen to dylan etc, then how on earth can you use the word stagnent in the same sentence? come on, i really wanna know, and who the fuck is limewire?

Limewire

Sorry, you know I meant limewax, was discussing limewire previously to writing the comment...

I do still think the scene is stagnent. I was more refering on the mainstream d'n'b. The commercial stuff really. Not a great deal of people 'really' know dylan. Same with Tech Itch unless you are a hardcore d'n'b fan.....

relik · Post by **relik** » Fri May 30, 2008 2:47 pm

I don't know how you couldn't know Dylan or Tech Itch. I'd say they pretty much commercialized hardcore drum n bass. We had Dylan play in a small bar in PA with Robyn Chaos. I really like a lot of the old stuff on Droppin' Science, Moving Shadow, Audio Couture, Tech Itch Recordings...before the Penetration and Freak Recordings days. That's the stuff that got me into collecting records to begin with, but got sick of it after awhile and went to the real roots. The old Tech Itch and Decoder (Orca - like his older stuff even better) stuff is pretty dope too. That's right when the mold was being broken. Pretty experimental sounding and if you play them slow it's damn near dubstep with those minimal drum/snare patterns and all the atmospheric trippy tech sounds and heavy bass.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Fri May 30, 2008 2:50 pm

BOOM-TSCH BOOM-TSCH BOOM-TSCH

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:13 pm

I've been waiting for a while for people to start doing dubstep influenced drum and bass. Not halfstep and wobbles at 170bpm, but dnb with based around sparseness, atmosphere and bassweight.

It seems like a lot of DnB producers (at all levels) are thinking 'hey this dubstep stuff sounds cool, I'll have a go at making some' and often coming up with fairly uninspired stuff, it'd be far more interesting to me to hear what'd happen if they thought 'hey this dubstep stuff sounds cool, I'll see if I can make drum and bass that sounds cool in the same way.'

brucifer · Post by **brucifer** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:45 am

Slothrop wrote:I've been waiting for a while for people to start doing dubstep influenced drum and bass. Not halfstep and wobbles at 170bpm, but dnb with based around sparseness, atmosphere and bassweight.

It seems like a lot of DnB producers (at all levels) are thinking 'hey this dubstep stuff sounds cool, I'll have a go at making some' and often coming up with fairly uninspired stuff, it'd be far more interesting to me to hear what'd happen if they thought 'hey this dubstep stuff sounds cool, I'll see if I can make drum and bass that sounds cool in the same way.'

I know what you mean, but a lot of old jungle had a similar feel to some dubstep. I don't mean the mainstream jungle you get in compilations.

addict · Post by **addict** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:13 am

Daft tnuc wrote:Drum'n'Step FTW

definately!

this might be a good time to say check out: http://www.myspace.com/falsemovez that's my DNB and i have to hand it too the nice peeps in this forum for helping with production in DNB & Dubstep. The knowledge transfers across the board ya know!

I try and only listen to mugstep thou.

Pada · Post by **Pada** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:04 pm

Is it not time for someone to list some good dubstep artist that are pushing fwd>> to rival the DNB lists?

Loefah, Mala, Coki, Skream (new stuff is deep), Jakes, TRG, Martyn, Appleblim, Shakleton, Peverlist, Pinch, 2562, Ramadanman, Darkstar, DZ (even if it is wobble), Gatekeeper, Joker, RSD, Matty G, 6 BLOCC

drifterman_ · Post by **drifterman_** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:12 pm

Battle Gong wrote: i sit down to make music. and then it is whatever it is...if u decide to make a genre u r deciding to follow whats gone b4. not a good start

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:42 pm

adisize wrote:Is it not time for someone to list some good dubstep artist that are pushing fwd>> to rival the DNB lists?

Loefah, Mala, Coki, Skream (new stuff is deep), Jakes, TRG, Martyn, Appleblim, Shakleton, Peverlist, Pinch, 2562, Ramadanman, Darkstar, DZ (even if it is wobble), Gatekeeper, Joker, RSD, Matty G, 6 BLOCC

Funny it looks like my avoid-at-all-cost list except for Pinch & the Skull Disco crew.

I recommend High Rankin, Redline, Don Goliath, Er.Ic, Ital Tek, Broken Note, Stenchman, Luke.Envoy, the Shift Recs & Rottun crews & Ale Fillman.

Pada · Post by **Pada** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:28 pm

Daft tnuc wrote:
adisize wrote:Is it not time for someone to list some good dubstep artist that are pushing fwd>> to rival the DNB lists?

Loefah, Mala, Coki, Skream (new stuff is deep), Jakes, TRG, Martyn, Appleblim, Shakleton, Peverlist, Pinch, 2562, Ramadanman, Darkstar, DZ (even if it is wobble), Gatekeeper, Joker, RSD, Matty G, 6 BLOCC
Funny it looks like my avoid-at-all-cost list except for Pinch & the Skull Disco crew.

I recommend High Rankin, Redline, Don Goliath, Er.Ic, Ital Tek, Broken Note, Stenchman, Luke.Envoy, the Shift Recs & Rottun crews & Ale Fillman.

Really? the DMZ gang? Ramadanman? Darkstar, martyn and TRG?

Also add El-b and horsepower to that list..

sully_harmitage · Post by **sully_harmitage** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:24 pm

d1rt1989 wrote:. its meant to be heard loud as fuck and felt through your body, thats when it transforms from mediocre to mind blowing. then once youve been to enough nights you can sort of translate tunes you hear at home and imagine how they would sound live.

thats such a cop-out
all music sounds better louder
sounding dull when quiet means something is definately missing

Shift Recordings · Post by **Shift Recordings** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:10 pm

Daft tnuc wrote:
I recommend High Rankin, Redline, Don Goliath, Er.Ic, Ital Tek, Broken Note, Stenchman, Luke.Envoy, the Shift Recs & Rottun crews & Ale Fillman.

Cheers man, much apreciated

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