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Why all the wobble hate?

Post by dubdisciple » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:40 pm

I know some of you vets are sick of being asked the same questions about how to create wobble, but it seems lately the contempt has spread. Maybe some of the posts are in jest, but I noticed quite a number of posts that seem to put down any use of wobble as being a bad thing. Granted, there are probably too many of us newbies posting tracks that have a kick on 1 and snare on the three with very generic "followed the wobble thread to the letter" style bass with little else, but I think you will find that is the same in any genre of music with newbies. It doesn't make wobble inherently evil. It is a distinctive part of dubstep and is not unlike "twang" in country or a reese in DnB. The current vibe has me hesitant to make a track with even a hint of wobble.
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Post by zoosh » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:44 pm

Make what music you want, if its good music it'll get picked up by people wobble or no wobble.

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Post by daft cunt » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:07 pm

Because the wobble's been done to death and they all sound the same to me.
Some people manage to make good use of them but most are just a copy of a copy of a copy...

I don't hate the wobble, I just find it awfully boring and I tend to stay away from tracks using it as the main element.
You shouldn't restrain yourself from using it if you like it tho. You're supposed to make music for yourself in the 1st place.

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Re: Why all the wobble hate?

Post by misk » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:22 pm

dubdisciple wrote:reese in DnB.
AHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!

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Post by psyolopher » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:57 pm

Daft tnuc wrote:Because the wobble's been done to death and they all sound the same to me.
Some people manage to make good use of them but most are just a copy of a copy of a copy...

I don't hate the wobble, I just find it awfully boring and I tend to stay away from tracks using it as the main element.
You shouldn't restrain yourself from using it if you like it tho. You're supposed to make music for yourself in the 1st place.
So try listen to other types of music? XD

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Post by fixation » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:13 pm

Psyolopher wrote:
Daft tnuc wrote:Because the wobble's been done to death and they all sound the same to me.
Some people manage to make good use of them but most are just a copy of a copy of a copy...

I don't hate the wobble, I just find it awfully boring and I tend to stay away from tracks using it as the main element.
You shouldn't restrain yourself from using it if you like it tho. You're supposed to make music for yourself in the 1st place.
So try listen to other types of music? XD
no...

i totally agree with daft tnuc, i love dubstep, and im not going to stop listening because of some wobble tracks that i dont like

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Post by psyolopher » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:36 pm

Fixation wrote:
Psyolopher wrote:
Daft tnuc wrote:Because the wobble's been done to death and they all sound the same to me.
Some people manage to make good use of them but most are just a copy of a copy of a copy...

I don't hate the wobble, I just find it awfully boring and I tend to stay away from tracks using it as the main element.
You shouldn't restrain yourself from using it if you like it tho. You're supposed to make music for yourself in the 1st place.
So try listen to other types of music? XD
no...

i totally agree with daft tnuc, i love dubstep, and im not going to stop listening because of some wobble tracks that i dont like
I was kinda jokin but, yeah get you!
Though im pretty new and like the wobbletywobble!
I hear there are alot of tracks that have TO BIG focus on the wobble, that the rest becomes often crappy!
Maybe there is a lack of creativity!

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Post by docwra » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:40 pm

It's because wobble is blatantly gay.....

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Post by fixation » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:43 pm

Docwra wrote:It's because wobble is blatantly gay.....
only if its made in reason :lol: :lol:

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Post by docwra » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:53 pm

Yeah, if its done in Reason then your blatantly a cross dressing poof

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Post by djshiva » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:53 pm

Docwra wrote:It's because wobble is blatantly gay.....
i actually find the wobble to be mostly the domain of heterosexual boys, so i think what you meant to say is the wobble is blatantly het.
Here, have a free tune:
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Post by docwra » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:55 pm

all ways one int there......

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Post by buzzy » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:02 pm

I like wobble.

I only think it's a problem if too many songs are based on it alone and nothing else. But it's only a problem in so far as much as those particular songs are concerned.
In itself, no problem with it whatsoever. If used well it can really add to a tune.

I just see it as method of animating sound. Just like dozens of other effects such as filter sweeps, glitches, scratching, snare rolls, echo, delay, reverb, etc.
If a song uses wobble and it's great music I'm not going to hate the song just because it's got wobble in it.
But on the other hand if I hear a song and all it consists of is a repetitive wobbling bass, then I probably won't like it so much.

It's just an animation effect on sound. Used well it can sound great in the context of a very good tune.

I don't think it should be something we should be ashamed of and spurn just because we've heard some tracks that overuse it. Think of when it's been used to great effect in the tunes that you do like.

It's like anything, get the balance of different elements right and it's an asset in a well written piece of music.


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Post by psyolopher » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:12 pm

Docwra wrote:It's because wobble is blatantly gay.....
lol, And you like wobble?
ahh that explains alot!

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Post by fixation » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:16 pm

Psyolopher wrote:
Docwra wrote:It's because wobble is blatantly gay.....
lol, And you like wobble?
ahh that explains alot!
BURN! :lol:

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Post by docwra » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:18 pm

For me wobble is not pushing the boundaries and potential this scene has. Anyone can automate a filter cut off. Lets try and do something different and be original. When i hear a wobble track i dont hear sounds that make me go WOW i want to know how he/she done that! But saying that ceratin peeps do it well. At the end of the day it's all music, just frustrating that 90% of the scene is doing the same thing

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Post by brownandgammon » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:02 pm

jam all your wobbly hype... its good fun to dance to. im a wobble lover.

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Post by psyolopher » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:10 pm

Docwra wrote:For me wobble is not pushing the boundaries and potential this scene has. Anyone can automate a filter cut off. Lets try and do something different and be original. When i hear a wobble track i dont hear sounds that make me go WOW i want to know how he/she done that! But saying that ceratin peeps do it well. At the end of the day it's all music, just frustrating that 90% of the scene is doing the same thing
Honest argument, yeah well i agree!
Check out my song: 96% puppets at www.myspace.com/djdolliproduction , inspired by a dupstep mood!
But decided not to use the wobbly bass sound, tried to make my own from scratch.....im satisfied with the creativity!
Need some pro feedback, non producers seem to like it though!
anyway, i think it is always like this.....When a sound or a genre becomes to popular....it gets raped in the ass....then the underground creates something new for pop to rape! =D

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Post by FSTZ » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:29 pm

for the record...

I only post the ham in threads that ask HOW to make the wobble, and not threads discussing the wobble.

please proceed as usual

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Post by slothrop » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:28 pm

Docwra wrote:For me wobble is not pushing the boundaries and potential this scene has. Anyone can automate a filter cut off. Lets try and do something different and be original. When i hear a wobble track i dont hear sounds that make me go WOW i want to know how he/she done that! But saying that ceratin peeps do it well. At the end of the day it's all music, just frustrating that 90% of the scene is doing the same thing
Wobble isn't intrinsically pushing boundaries but there's nothing that means a wobble tune can't push boundaries any more than a tune with a piano can't be original because people have been using pianos for hundreds of years. It's still a good noise (or family of noises) with creative potential, there are just too many people who think that once they've hooked up an LFO to the filter cutoff and held down the same note once every bar they've got a PHAT DUSBTEP CHOON!!!1

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