DUBTECH!!! COULD IT BE A NEXT SUB-GENRE??????????????

[dusk governor]

if it isn't powerstep, it's shit

[fairieswearboots]

splitting the music & defining different sounds and calling them different names is also what happened to DnB,
you then get ppl jumping on different styles and saying "this is my shit! this is the shit, forget everything else!"
then you get conflict and the musice is worse off for it

[struggle]

man...am i tired of people saying "that's what happened to dnb." you know what happened to dnb? people started thinking too much and taking shit way too seriously...which imo is what is happening here(in this thread).

there will come a time when producers find it unavoidable to set themselves apart though, and they can call their music whatever the fuck they want.

there's a new thread like this every week now...please make it stop

[yakushima]

I'm working on my first dubstep mix which will be mostly minimal and techno-influenced stuff, with a few non-4/4 techno tunes... going to call it 'Experiments in Dubtech' or something similar...

Let me know if you have any track suggestions, here's my list so far... in no particular order...


Broken - Martyn
Enforcers - 2562
Getreide-Phunk - DJ Koze
Maglev - tune I'm working on
Over Here - Peverelist & Appleblim
Post Rave Blues (Part 1) - TRG
You Not Me - Claro Intelecto

Might stick in a Deepchord track too, maybe one by Monolake, probably another 2562 one as well... and some Pinch

[juliun_c90]

dubstep is a sub-genre of house.

[yakushima]

dubstep is a sub-genre of house.

[slothrop]

splitting the music & defining different sounds and calling them different names is also what happened to DnB,
you then get ppl jumping on different styles and saying "this is my shit! this is the shit, forget everything else!"
then you get conflict and the musice is worse off for it

Yeah, people making tunes that sound like Coki (but less good) and tunes that sound like Rusko (but less good) are pushing things forward creatively, it's only when you come up with a name to describe loads of generic predictable sounding records that it becomes boring and derivative...

Fucksake, it's DJs and producers who decide whether or not they're going to make boring predictable music, not people talking about it on forums. If I decided that Martyn's tunes were deep techy substep and in order to be deep techy substep a tune must have this sort of bass and this sort of snare sound, I don't think when he writes his next tune he's going to reach for a different sort of snare sound and then think - oh no, musn't do that, deep techy substep regulation 1b paragraph 14 says it's not allowed...

[juliun_c90]

dubstep is a sub-genre of house.

i'm actually serious. i know you can get into the whole 'infinite regression' argument but i do think people need reminding of this fact once in a while.

the whole process of what you might call genrification is quite weird and folksonomic- think about the number of circumstances and outside influences that can contribute to you applying a snappy adjective to a piece of music and someone you're trying to talk to actually understanding what the fuck you're talking about.

blows my mind.

[jimitheexploder]

dubstep is a sub-genre of house.

i'm actually serious. i know you can get into the whole 'infinite regression' argument but i do think people need reminding of this fact once in a while.

the whole process of what you might call genrification is quite weird and folksonomic- think about the number of circumstances and outside influences that can contribute to you applying a snappy adjective to a piece of music and someone you're trying to talk to actually understanding what the fuck you're talking about.

blows my mind.

He has a point

If you go way back........

dub is a huge influence for sure

but so is house / electro / techno

I mean house morphed into garage all them years ago

then the UK kinda did their thing with it thru hardcore and jungle to make UK garage

Its all just dance music really aint it...

[juliun_c90]

He he.

"Does dubstep have more to do with dub or house?"

Now there's a boring/pointless/interesting/provocative/meandering/important/pointless question depending on your viewpoint.

Please don't try to answer btw.

[sines]

[Tangka]

dubtech means dub techno as has been said

[OoGuN]

best comment by far on this hackneyed old topic of subgenres.

I reckon let's just take it to the extreme- Rusko makes Ruskostep, Mala makes Malastep, headhunter makes HeadhunterStep and I of course make the best genre of all:

OoGuNStep.

[jred]

im so confused i dont know what i play anymore, Jredstep

hrmmm that has a good feel

dunno bout that OoGunstep tho to OoGunny and not enuff step

nah not really OoGun a badman producer

[abZ]

dubstep is a sub-genre of house.

i'm actually serious. i know you can get into the whole 'infinite regression' argument but i do think people need reminding of this fact once in a while.

the whole process of what you might call genrification is quite weird and folksonomic- think about the number of circumstances and outside influences that can contribute to you applying a snappy adjective to a piece of music and someone you're trying to talk to actually understanding what the fuck you're talking about.

blows my mind.

I see it as being derivative of everything that came before it. You can hear DNB, Jungle, Hardcore, Techno, UKG, Hophop, House, Electro, Dub on down the line in Dubstep. That is kind of what I like about it. Dubstep was a sub-genre of Garage/2 step but it's defo has it's own branch in the techno tree.

The whole subgenre thing is ridiculous to me. It's bound to happen though. It's obvious from reading this site that people just can't wait for it to happen. I don't care tho, I'm still just going to sort it out like this... I like this / I don't like this.