The secret (Law of attraction)

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:28 am

SUCKS!
Its like basic thinking with added sugar, bullshit and a made up universal law that does not fit philosophy and science!

Sure, think positive and you most probarly will attract someone who does the same! BECAUSE you then are and look positive, speech etc....
Another person will notice this!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkvvpJ_pVQ
Take a look at this!

kozee · Post by **kozee** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:40 am

exactly, i have know this since the beg of life (sorta) ... they just make a buck on it.

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:42 am

It was like an exploision of wishful thinking in iceland!
Im so sick of hearing this shit.....

Reality seems to be slipping away....

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:41 am

the law of attraction is real but so is the law of intent and the law of balance and the law of allowance

the universe is not a cosmic vending machine

http://beachheadonline.wordpress.com/20 ... rsal-laws/

misk · Post by **misk** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:20 am

im really into the law of the jungle.

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:25 am

Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death.

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:12 pm

Parson wrote:the law of attraction is real but so is the law of intent and the law of balance and the law of allowance

the universe is not a cosmic vending machine

http://beachheadonline.wordpress.com/20 ... rsal-laws/

It still does not add up to quantum physics nor my philosophy!
There is absolutely now evidence showing that the law of attraction does work, if im wrong there....please point something out!

Actually my experience is the opposite of the law of attraction, i attract things that i dont want!
If i think: SHIT I DONT WANT THAT.....thats more likely to happen....
actually thats just random nonsense! So is the law of attraction!
Some new age sell more naive shit!

There is no such universal law that does work!
Why do we take our selfs to be of such great importance?
We're like cancer to the earth, and more like cancer ants who walk around
controlled every step we take....how important is one ant to the whole picture?

tuck · Post by **tuck** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:29 pm

[quote="Psyolopher"] i attract things that i dont want!
If i think: SHIT I DONT WANT THAT.....thats more likely to happen....
[quote]

That's because the law of attraction doesn't distinguish between good and bad from your point of view, that's what your emotianal guidance system is for so that you can recognise the things you don't want and focus on the opposite of those.

For you the law of attraction is bullshit and so for you it always will be.

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:31 pm

i find it cool how just yesterday someone reccomend me to check 'the secret'

i guess something is wanting me to check it out.

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:39 pm

Tuck wrote:
Psyolopher wrote: i attract things that i dont want!
If i think: SHIT I DONT WANT THAT.....thats more likely to happen....

That's because the law of attraction doesn't distinguish between good and bad from your point of view, that's what your emotianal guidance system is for so that you can recognise the things you don't want and focus on the opposite of those.

For you the law of attraction is bullshit and so for you it always will be.

and also, negative thoughts dont ammount to anything helpful..,obviously

we condition out personality and define our 'self' or MY life through things in the past.

if you wanna relive a control drama in your mind over and over, you'll see the same results again and again.

whether or not its bullshit or not, thinking positiv, at the very least, makes everything that extra bit bearable.

people who say their life is shit and that 'trouble always finds them' are the people who are bringing that in whether conciously or subconciously.

the human mind (at the moment) isnt capable of thinking (for too long) on different levels of conciousness and only perceives life as a possesion or from the perspective of a human .

and you said how important is one ant? well it must be pretty important if it all came from the same place...

humans were both lucky and unlucky in the fact that over time they realised they were concious.

through the fear and uncertainty in not knowing why, they decided to break life down into only it's practical considerations ,disallowing any progress in finding out why we are able to perceive these things.

by creating the fear and labeling something as bad/wrong/false we justfed our perception's defintion of it.

crazy or no crazy, your the person at the driving wheel of your life.

FSTZ1 · Post by **FSTZ1** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:47 pm

I am a fan of the Law of fives, personally

phobic · Post by **phobic** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:54 pm

If i think: SHIT I DONT WANT THAT.....thats more likely to happen....

self fullfilled prophesy... everything depends on ur mind set, if u think U'll have a bad day, you probably will....if you think you can do something...u are probably more likely to succeed in it (obviously not in all cases)

I teach English to Japanese people in Tokyo, and it really is true... depending on how you go into a class/how ur mind set is will depend on how successfull the class will be/how others will also feel and percieve you...if I go into a class thinking..."shit, this dude is awful, this class is gonna be unbearable" then...yes, it really will be! But if its approached in an open minded, prejudice free manner, then it will probably be much more successful/bearable.

bellybelle · Post by **bellybelle** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:56 pm

Psyolopher wrote:Actually my experience is the opposite of the law of attraction, i attract things that i dont want!
If i think: SHIT I DONT WANT THAT.....thats more likely to happen....
actually thats just random nonsense! So is the law of attraction!
Some new age sell more naive shit!

It might be closer that since you're expending negative energy affirming what you do not want, you become more fixated on that and bring it home.

I hate saying, "Be positive and everything will work out," because I'm a worrier as a hobby and tend to think the worst of almost every situation. But even I have to admit, when I started to actively guarantee my happiness, only then did it come.

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:57 pm

The point being, i attract the oposite of what i think....
get it?
argh
IF i think ICECREAM, i will get a HOT DOG!
(extreme case, but yeah u get me)
How is that? something wrong with my head then?
How come i can even write on this fucking forum then? stfu! =)

And don't believe this non sense, happy happy wishful thinking shiiit!
And yes i never will then lol!

I attend to try to think positive, since i got Dysthymia it can be extreme difficult at times!
I get it, its all very simple.....simple as in fucking kindergarden simple!
It makes sense to one point, but hey dont go beyond it thinking there is suddenly a universal law!
What did THE secret change? NOTHING!!!!!!
The world does not spin faster after the secret got revealed and people are not feeling better!
You want to know what the real secret is? The real secret is hard work!!!!
YES, do think positive and do work hard!!!!
DONT just assume that it will come to you becouse of your morals and thougts are happy and u think about (that u already have) what you want!
IT WONT COME TO YOU UNLESS U DO IT YOURSELF!
Like parson said, the universe is not a cosmic vending machine!
ffs
me pissed off as usual!

Dont forget, you do attract other people with looks, body language and words!
That has NOTHING to do with God or universal laws....it has something to do with Natural laws....now just so thats said!

bellybelle · Post by **bellybelle** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:07 pm

I see where you can say that. I mean, surely people don't asked to be abused or taken advantage of.

But, er, take a lot of victims. Never saying that there is something anyone ever does to be victimized....but there might be key behavioral indicators that would suggest that they would be an easier target than others. Like, in domestic violence cases, not every person will be victimized. But there is something about the character of the successful victim that predators pick up on and capitalize.

More that thinking in a positive manner will project unseen variations of behavior that others will subconsciously respond to. More that being a positive person produces subtle "tells" about who you are. And yes, at times, being positive seems to be a magnet for attracting negativity. But....this does not mean the opposite....more that you are doing the right thing and more flawed, less whole individuals are envious and self-limited. Go deeper than the surface...a lot of time, with careful introspection, the truth in motive and subsequent behavior can be revealed.

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:14 pm

Belle, you just killed the law of attraction....
Why do people get killed?
DO you think a Muslim child wanted to get bombed?
Thats also a sort of question that just keeps getting ignored!

I also have one,
has THE SECRET, had any influence on the world economy?
OR just the economy of where the book is popular?

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:15 pm

stay non-reactive, non judgemental and accept the present moment no matter how good/bad it is and realise every moment passes...

"This too shall pass"

calling something shit/wrong/bad doesnt do anything. calling it good/right doesnt doing anything either.

be non-attached to the things in your life.

"all suffering is the result of desire"

this doenst mean that you be pasisve and dont care about anything, just that your not fully assocaited with both the things in your life and the events (good or bad) that happen to your life...

anything you've encountered hasnt been strong enough to remove yoou from the present moment. escape the constant flow of thought and mind chatter and then you'll realise even in the worst of times shit really isnt that bad.

the mind is the only thing that will make you feel claustrophobic to life. self imposed imprisonment.

argue against it /for it, whatever makes no difference. your the only person can change your life. by realisng that the mind has an ego and the true self isnt the ego, you eliminate alot of the little dramas that would usually hit a nerve inyour life.

looking for any external answer wont work. you may be fooled into believign you have found one but all physical things arent ever lasting.

the real 'answer' is the life you are not the life you have...

(no hippy)

bellybelle · Post by **bellybelle** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:20 pm

Psyolopher wrote:Belle, you just killed the law of attraction....
Why do people get killed?
DO you think a Muslim child wanted to get bombed?
Thats also a sort of question that just keeps getting ignored!

People die because they must. Hate to be clinical or cruel but people have to die. All people. Thats not a negative or positive. It just is. Can you imagine how much crueler life would be if people didn't die? Our relationship with Death has nothing to do with its actual purpose, which is balance. Just because we attribute more meaning to it, it doesn't mean there is any higher purpose for it. Death is not justice. Its not a reward. Its a balancing part of life. And that's how it has to be.

Is it better for a child to be bombed to death, fall prey to disease, die in his/her sleep or be mauled by an animal, if the end result is that the child dies anyway? Does any connotation change the fact of what is?

tuck · Post by **tuck** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:24 pm

The secret changes nothing for those who want nothing to change. Conscious or sub-conscious the law of attraction will bring you the things you are thinking of and you will deny yourself the things that you do not truly believe you deserve. That's why you think ice cream and get a hot dog because you don't truly believe you deserve ice cream and the obvious alternative is something you don't want but can't stop thinking about.

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:24 pm

"death isnt the opposite of life.

death is the opposite of birth.

life has no opposite"

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