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Post by ct&d » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:25 pm

halfway through 'crime & punishment' by Dostoevsky at the mo..

at first i felt it was too much effort n way too long,
but its grown on me so much and some of Dostoevsky's writing/ideas are mesmerizing!

Would recommend this one to all who like to think awfully deep,
but make sure your ready 4 a long term relationship :D
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Post by dj cal cutta » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:38 pm

Crime and Punishment is one of my all-time favorites. If you like that, check out "The Devils". While it's paced even slower than Crime and Punishment(closer to The Brothers Karamazov, really), the story has that classic-Dostoevsky pull-in style, imo, to a greater degree than Crime and Punishment.

Another Dostoevsky recommendation is "The House of the Dead", his writings on his time in a Russian prison camp. This is probably my favorite work of Dostoevsky, actually...
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Post by datura » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:13 pm

Finished 'Clockers', great book..if anyone else knows any good slow crime books (I mean slow as in one with leisurely pacing, a lot of charachter and scene setting, not 100 miles an hour, twist after twist), any recommendations would be gratefully received.

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Post by ct&d » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:44 pm

DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Crime and Punishment is one of my all-time favorites. If you like that, check out "The Devils". While it's paced even slower than Crime and Punishment(closer to The Brothers Karamazov, really), the story has that classic-Dostoevsky pull-in style, imo, to a greater degree than Crime and Punishment.

Another Dostoevsky recommendation is "The House of the Dead", his writings on his time in a Russian prison camp. This is probably my favorite work of Dostoevsky, actually...
Aight cheers for the recommendation's.. 8)

this is my first Dostoevsky read so you must know what im going through!
but out of all his other books which one d'u think i should pick next? (wanting one that would teach most about the Former Soviet Union & general Russian history)

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Post by dj cal cutta » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:17 pm

I'd say maybe "The House of the Dead", as it's him relating his experiences in a Russian prison camp, other than that, he mainly wrote fiction(albeit fiction that is very firmly set in Czarist Russia and gives a great vision of this time and place).

So yeah, either that, or the Brothers Karamazov.
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Post by ct&d » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:54 pm

^^

alrite sweet, will check em both out :P

thanks for your suggestions!!
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Post by diss04 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:56 pm

i'm reading fear and loathing in las vegas - its real good! :D
Parson wrote:...and then God said unto Eve, "Have some of that, slag."
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Post by psyolopher » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:02 pm

Diss04 wrote:i'm reading fear and loathing in las vegas - its real good! :D
Yup, big ups for a drug craze!
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Post by unlikely » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:04 am

just about to finish "hyperion" by Dan Simmons, bloody good actually
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Post by datura » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:48 am

unlikely wrote:just about to finish "hyperion" by Dan Simmons, bloody good actually
I've got that on the 'to read pile', there's a few more books in the series as well which are apparently as good:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Cantos
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Post by elbe » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:48 am

still bookseller of Kabul, its gettin better now, might have to take it home to read instead of leavingit for my work breaks.
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Post by onexroot » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:48 am

Just started reading The Watchmen the other day.
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Post by betamaxnomates » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:03 am

Just finished 'The Road To Wigan Pier' by George Orwell. Went through a big Orwell phase a few years ago but this was one of his I missed. Illuminating stuff.

Now I've just started a book called 'Black Mass' by John Gray which is about how notions of utopia and 'progress' are actually detrimental to mankind. One of the quotes on the back described it as a 'load of bollocks' which was what sold it to me! :)
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Post by unlikely » Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:53 pm

BETAMAXNOMATES wrote: Now I've just started a book called 'Black Mass' by John Gray which is about how notions of utopia and 'progress' are actually detrimental to mankind. One of the quotes on the back described it as a 'load of bollocks' which was what sold it to me! :)
That sounds good actually, might have to check it out


I made the mistake of reading Murakami at my boring job recently. Made everything seem really significant and surreal all week. Not good for your average work-level state of mind lol
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Post by unlikely » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:29 pm

dali wrote:Killed Invisible Monsters yesterday... on to Snuff... love Chuck Palahniuk

If you like Ellis give him a try...

I still have yet to start the new David Sedaris... I bought it and got it signed a couple weeks ago when he was in town... that guy is pretty goofy, in a good way though.

I also have the Virgin Suicides and Journey to the Center of the Earth in my stock for the next 2 weeks...

*Oh and for you Ellis fans... the Less Than Zero sequel is rumored to be titled "Imperial Bedrooms" inspired by an Elvis Costello song. The release is on hold as Brett writes the screen play for Downer's Grove—a novel by Michael Hornburg.

If your into Chuck you've gotta check out Kiss me, Judas by Will Christopher Baer. Amazingly well written, similair themes and images to Chucks stuff but found this a lot more immersive and enjoyable. Ive never read something that takes you so far into the characters head. Also its the only book i've ever read where i was impressed with the lighting lol, you'll see what i mean if you read it.
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Post by danny bwoy » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:01 pm

reading this right now...

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...and i just can't keep my hands off it.

the main character is a biotechnologically enhanced alpha male warrior with a severe identity crisis. there's also: ai war machines gone awol, a neo-liberal planetary government, surf boards, anti-grav vehicles, remains of an ancient extraterrestrial culture, the yakuza, the ghost of a feminist revolutionary leader, etc, etc...

it's hilarious...

and i've just been re-reading...

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...which is the best book of the sprawl trilogy imo.
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Post by pk » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:32 pm

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cost a fucking fortune but it's great
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Post by dubluke » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:34 am

Diss04 wrote:i'm reading fear and loathing in las vegas - its real good! :D
badman, awesome book
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Post by shane » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:57 pm

dubluke wrote:
Diss04 wrote:i'm reading fear and loathing in las vegas - its real good! :D
badman, awesome book
yeah for real. i've had that one in my collection for years.


right now i'm reading deadeye dick. dope dope dope so far.
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Post by datura » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:15 pm

shane wrote:right now i'm reading deadeye dick. dope dope dope so far.
That's actually one of the few Vonnegut's I haven't read, need to check it out from the looks of it.
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