"Dark" Bassline

ashen · Post by **ashen** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:48 pm

Is most bassline geared towards the commercial side of things? Most of what ive heard is just sugar coated trash...

Any producers pushing a sparser, deeper sound?

chu · Post by **chu** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:15 pm

Ashen wrote:Is most bassline geared towards the commercial side of things? Most of what ive heard is just sugar coated trash...

Any producers pushing a sparser, deeper sound?

Burgaboy, earlier T2 releases (Monster Dubz EP), Dub Melitia, the two Nastee Boi EP's on Northern Line Records... ermm... X5 Dubs, that Yozzie B bit from a while back has a few dark moments.

Anyone else?

This is definitely the side of Bassline I'm feeling.

Maybe check out some Hard4 artist like Morph, H3rbzman, Klassic (basically the J3DI crew)

felixgash · Post by **felixgash** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:38 pm

Veteran, Agent X, Bogeyman, Wideboys (check out http://www.discogs.com/release/746068).

I was into Bassline once upon a time.. 2003-2005 maybe. It was raw and didn't sound like the mickey mouse it is today.

gwa · Post by **gwa** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:47 pm

Any audio, im interested in hearing this. I cannot stand commerical bassline it does sound like exactly what you said, mickey mouse.

50mileview · Post by **50mileview** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:11 pm

thats the beauty of bassline. it takes in a whole range of influences including cheesy as fuck garage from back in the day and suage coated commercial dance. Think you have to just take it for what it is and not belittle it for not being what you consider 'serious music'.

Also bridged a gap between dance sub-genre's & female audiences too. This is only a good thing.

You can tell it didnt come out of london cus it doesnt take itself half as seriously as most other sub-genres that are made out to be some youth-culture revoloution by the Guardian until it gets saturated and we move on to the next fad (Crunk-Wobble-3 Step).

I would rarely sit down at home and listen to Addicted to Bassline all the way through but if some of that cheesy-formulaic OTT bassline comes on in a club and im in the right mood....

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:27 pm

Any big Veteran tunes to look out for? I can get hold of some but got no mp3 samples like so dont know wether to go out on a limb.

Im not really feelin Burga Boy to be honest, only got that record with 'I can love you' on and the only track Im into is 'Boi Boi' but I cant play even play that cos I got my own MC's when I play innit

g.h. · Post by **g.h.** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:50 pm

Check out the new release on Rag & Bone by Kanji Kinetic.

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:44 am

G.H. wrote:Check out the new release on Rag & Bone by Kanji Kinetic.

Aye Fridgeman was bangin on about that t'other day

gremino · Post by **gremino** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:09 pm

Chu wrote:Maybe check out some Hard4 artist like Morph, H3rbzman, Klassic (basically the J3DI crew)

Do you know where you can buy hard4? Or download some mixes?

felixGash wrote:I was into Bassline once upon a time.. 2003-2005 maybe. It was raw and didn't sound like the mickey mouse it is today.

Could you please point me some mixes from this era.

I've always got an image that the sound was back then more "sophisticated", and niche sound took things rawer. But I really know nothing about the 03-05 era

zeba · Post by **zeba** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:13 am

you can check my last sub fm set, i played a bit of dark stuff

http://www.divshare.com/download/5040452-864

01 - Deadly - UK Put Ya Shades On
02 - DJ Q & MC Bones - You Wot
03 - Dub Melitia - Bad Man Forward 2
04 - Merkury - Best Thing
05 - MR V - Game Over
06 - Nastee Boi - Dirtyah
07 - Nay Nay & Flex - Get Low
08 - R1 - Shark Fin Bass
09 - MNT - And Yes - Jalla Mix
10 - T-Camp - Bad Breed
11 - TRC - Junior Riddim
12 - Ts7 - Golden Tulips
13 - MC Viper - Music's Easy
14 - Ts7 & T Dot - Raise Ur Glasses
15 - Platnum - Over The Heartache - Jamie Duggan Mix
16 - Dizzee Rascal - Sirens - Big Ang Mix
17 - Danny Dubz & Davina - Runaway - TRC mix
18 - Deadly - 0121
19 - Rubberneck & Marcie & Hyper - Whine It Down
20 - Wittyboy & Asher - Jump Around
21 - T2 & BODR - Tazor
22 - Boy Better Know - Duppy - Bassline Mix
23 - Delinquent - Chalace Man 2
24 - DJ Influence - Vendetta
25 - Dub Melitia - Bullet
26 - Fawcett - Badman Hype
27 - Jalla - Warbus Tourbus
28 - JTJ - It's You
29 - J Majik & Wickaman - Crazy World - Joy N Pain Mix
30 - The Angry Kids vs Bob Marley - Mr Brown - Agent x Mix
31 - Illmana & Carmen - No More
32 - Ts7 & Tonia - Smile
33 - Wittyboy & Lauren Mason - PS
34 - DJ Q & MC Bones & Gemma Fox - Numbers
35 - Mr Figz - Headlock
36 - Mutya Buena - PaperBag - Paleface Remix
37 - Nastee Boi - Bangorz
38 - R-Kane & Domino - Huckleberry
39 - T2 - Nosebleed
40 - Curses! - What I Need - Sharkslayer Mix
41 - Rico Tubbs - Gangsters
42 - Crookers - Set You Free
43 - Mr V - Jack In The Box
44 - TRC - Dirty Cash
45 - Party Shank - Penis vs Vagina - Shanks Killer Mix
46 - Nay Nay - Woii
47 - DJ Veteran - Headache Riddim
48 - Dnd - Diamond Rings
49 - JC vs Dezz Jones - Bad Girl

zeba · Post by **zeba** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:15 am

gremino wrote:
Chu wrote:Maybe check out some Hard4 artist like Morph, H3rbzman, Klassic (basically the J3DI crew)
Do you know where you can buy hard4? Or download some mixes?

felixGash wrote:I was into Bassline once upon a time.. 2003-2005 maybe. It was raw and didn't sound like the mickey mouse it is today.
Could you please point me some mixes from this era.

I've always got an image that the sound was back then more "sophisticated", and niche sound took things rawer. But I really know nothing about the 03-05 era

dbl post sry

but i wouldnt really say there was a bassline scene in 2003-2005 since really it didnt start until late 2006, back then it was all bassline house and organs, which are more cheesier than the stuff these days

chu · Post by **chu** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:18 am

gremino wrote:
Chu wrote:Maybe check out some Hard4 artist like Morph, H3rbzman, Klassic (basically the J3DI crew)
Do you know where you can buy hard4? Or download some mixes?

Klassic has an EP out, "Neon", that has a few bits on it. Saw you could pick it up at his site (http://www.dj-klassic.co.uk) but that seems to be down.

Actually you can get it here:

http://newbreedrecords.co.uk/index.php? ... yword=neon

Command and Conquer is BWAD.

Dj Klassic Mix from 06 haven't listened yet though:

http://www.directnlive.blogspot.com/

Let me know if it's good.

Was told J3DI have and album on the way... but other than that, please, you tell me.

zeba wrote:
felixGash wrote:I was into Bassline once upon a time.. 2003-2005 maybe. It was raw and didn't sound like the mickey mouse it is today.
Could you please point me some mixes from this era.

I've always got an image that the sound was back then more "sophisticated", and niche sound took things rawer. But I really know nothing about the 03-05 era

but i wouldnt really say there was a bassline scene in 2003-2005 since really it didnt start until late 2006, back then it was all bassline house and organs, which are more cheesier than the stuff these days

I don't know about that, whilst it's true there has been a shift from the vocally/organ house/speed garage style I have heard some bits, like "DJ Cameo and J Sweet - High Grade (4x4 Remix)", from 02 that fit in nicely with the new bassline 4x4 (Mr. V/Burgaboy) spectrum.

Can anyone point me in the direction of anymore pre-07 bouncey-gritty-bassline tracks like this:

DJ Cameo and J Sweet - High Grade (4x4 Remix)

http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore ... 8627_1.mp3

If I'm talking out my arse set me straight.

Easy

zeba · Post by **zeba** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:05 am

well tbh there was always the odd track produced back then that could now be classed as 'bassline' i know dj narrows did some stuff like this also check out outlaw breaks and gemma fox - dutty, carly bond - not wise )scandalous unlimited remix) also stuff like the cameo and sweet tune id recommend check out some black ops releases coz they did a few 4x4 mixes of their tracks.

for me ppl like dj veteran, zibba, dj q started the bassline tunes, then when platnum released there first tune 'over the heartache' jamie duggan did a sick remix that blew up the bassline scene, then northern line records came along in late 06 and made the biggest movements in bassline i think.

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:43 am

hmm i've always thought this. is there any reallly dark stuff?

not to belittle any of the scene cos i havnt checked enough of it (mainly because all i've stumbled across is that said mickey mouse stuff)

but is there any of it out there with sounds that leave you asking how the fuck they made it?

any more leftfeild stuff? any names?

if not, there's always the dark breaks.

chu · Post by **chu** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:49 am

zeba wrote:well tbh there was always the odd track produced back then that could now be classed as 'bassline' i know dj narrows did some stuff like this also check out outlaw breaks and gemma fox - dutty, carly bond - not wise )scandalous unlimited remix) also stuff like the cameo and sweet tune id recommend check out some black ops releases coz they did a few 4x4 mixes of their tracks.

Cool I get what you are saying, it's just hard to pick through everything looking for those individual tracks that have that new 4x4 style to them.

zeba wrote:'over the heartache'

"I don't want you, don't need you"... absolute anthem.

chamclowder · Post by **chamclowder** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:57 am

Starkey makes some Bline.

biomat · Post by **biomat** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:55 am

me like..from the darker stuff
piddy py, illmana, dub melitia, bass boy, burgaboy, ds1, bun, jtj, adotr, 1stborn

shook1 · Post by **shook1** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:58 am

Anyone know who does those fucking nasty tracks that EJ plays on education 21 and 22, got a sample something like f f f f f f fiiiiiiiire, then its the grittiest bassline going.

jera · Post by **jera** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:20 am

Bassline is seriously hit & miss for me. Some tunes can be real bangers, but the majority of them all just sound the same with gash vocals.
I'm feelin' the more grime side of things with the MCs. DJ Q & Nastee come to mind for this sort of sound.

dj-undecided · Post by **dj-undecided** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:17 pm

for the grim side of bassline check out people like

nastee boi
wittyboy
mr v aka virgo
24k
dub melitia
trc
jalla
murkz
pantha
predator
illmana
b.u.n / mikey b
dyno
shady
statsman
merkury
burga boy
piddy py
sub zero

the list goes on and on, also there has to be a cheesy/girly side to the scene else there wouldnt be any women interested in bassline

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