is dubstep considered a DnB subgenre?

duderonomy · Post by **duderonomy** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:45 pm

I think that Dubstep might aswell be a subgenre of DnB... a lot of the tunes fall into the same formulaic wobble, and a lot of Dubstep DJs, just like DnB DJs (and Djs from other genres I guess) only play Dubstep tunes, and half the time they only play their own tunes or tunes released by their mates*, and there's the same stupid 'holding back the release of ltd dubplates' thing going on too** - all of this happens in DnB, UK Garage too, and I bet to an outsider, it's just the latest brand of what would be called UK dance music.

* makes you wonder if their record collection is only a few dozen deep
** goes back to Jamaican soundsystem culture

darkmatter · Post by **darkmatter** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:38 pm

Mr Hyde wrote:can go on forever through music evolving right back to tribal drumming!

hopefully it'll go full circle, but this time with bigger sublines

pk · Post by pk » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:54 pm

am i right in thinking most of the people from the US who like dubstep used to be massive dnb fans?

honest question

jonnyrebel · Post by **jonnyrebel** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:58 pm

pk wrote:am i right in thinking most of the people from the US who like dubstep used to be massive dnb fans?

honest question

i dont think there are as many rifts between the sub genres over there tbh

Id like to point out that drum and bass (in its liquid form or in its evil form) can still blow you away its just that usually the people that compare dubstep with d n b are the ones that like dj pleasure or some jump up bullshit.

concept_ · Post by **concept_** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:07 pm

its not called jump up anymore
its called 'machete' music

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:13 pm

Fuck the hardcore continuum.

Grooverider calls jungle "house music".

Kiwis call it all "doof music".

It's all disco in my book.

blizzardmusic · Post by **blizzardmusic** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:37 pm

this thread delivers.

TO THE SNH

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:05 pm

Jonnyrebel wrote:
Ikarai wrote:good christ. either lock this or kill me. your choice.
THIS

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:19 pm

i think wether you like it or not dnb and dubstep will always have a link as alot of people are introduced to it from it being in room 2 at a dnb event.

especially if you live outside of London.

but tbh, who really gives a shit?

freqone · Post by **freqone** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:36 pm

djfurness wrote:see the lovely Dubstep Forum sprit lives on.
its so good being involved in a scene with so many fuckheads.
the guy was asking a question.
this board is so on its fucking high horse sometimes.

I would of used less profane language,,, but well said...

w!5k · Post by **w!5k** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:40 pm

Nah I'd say it was a sub genre of uk garage, but nows its a genre in its own rights.

cogi · Post by **cogi** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:58 pm

lol. i justed wanted to write that. brilliant thread. i love all the back chat.

jess_is_not_ok · Post by **jess_is_not_ok** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:59 pm

badger wrote:
Signus wrote:This forum isn't just for people biggin up there new tunes, radio shows, events etc it's here to help people out as well. So much for us being a friendly community
hah agreed. the forum certainly seems to have lost the friendly vibe that got so many people interested in the first place

I agree. :/

GROUP HUG... everyone, group hug.

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:18 pm

Jess_is_NOT_OK wrote:
badger wrote:
Signus wrote:This forum isn't just for people biggin up there new tunes, radio shows, events etc it's here to help people out as well. So much for us being a friendly community
hah agreed. the forum certainly seems to have lost the friendly vibe that got so many people interested in the first place

I agree. :/

GROUP HUG... everyone, group hug.

Raves haven't got the atmosphere they used to! Quick everyone! Hop in the time machine back to '88!

Post by **dubway** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:31 am

moved and unlocked

frodo · Post by **frodo** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:25 pm

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:30 pm

Joe Muggs wrote:
Jess_is_NOT_OK wrote:
badger wrote:
Signus wrote:This forum isn't just for people biggin up there new tunes, radio shows, events etc it's here to help people out as well. So much for us being a friendly community
hah agreed. the forum certainly seems to have lost the friendly vibe that got so many people interested in the first place

I agree. :/

GROUP HUG... everyone, group hug.
Raves haven't got the atmosphere they used to! Quick everyone! Hop in the time machine back to '88!

hugging people in the rave is the one! i don't care if it makes me a stereotype

prisoner · Post by **prisoner** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:26 am

pk wrote:am i right in thinking most of the people from the US who like dubstep used to be massive dnb fans?

honest question

most that i know were/are.

i can't speak for everybody, but since ukg never really lasted all that long here, the direct link between the two seems to be missing on this side of the pond.

there are those of us who have followed it from there, but i think we're in the minority. and even from there, most who were into 2step were junglists before that.

bright maroon · Post by **bright maroon** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:45 am

To me it sounds alot like early drum and bass - when the beats were more funky and not rollin' so much - like DJ Zinc style...

...but without a doubt, dubstep is it's own thing.

I remember saying once(in my opinion again, and I am just a listener), that it is the first real hybrid of drum and bass that stands solidly on it's own - that formulaically was solid as something new and completely autonomous within itself...

I can definatly hear the progressive house influence as well - maybe that's the garage thing the UK heads are referring to..

musically though - it is the best and strongest most interesting new sub genre - I'm in for it, I like the sound very much.

bright maroon · Post by **bright maroon** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:55 am

It would be nice though to hear how some early or serious producers came about synthesizing their influences to get to this sound.

I'm fairly sure they weren't working from a vacuum...

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